| 
 | 
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
    
 | 
       | 
      
 
 
	
		  | 
	
	 | 
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 10th, 2007, 11:19 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				BANNED USER 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2007 
					
					
					
						Posts: 5,463
					 
					 
	Thanks: 165 
	
		
			
				Thanked 324 Times in 190 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Indeed. I just looked at the progress page and there's a LOT of good stuff there. #darkvision is always nice, for instance. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 10th, 2007, 04:31 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Sergeant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Apr 2004 
					Location: Forlì, Italy 
					
					
						Posts: 322
					 
					 
	Thanks: 15 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		* Dominion sometimes spread in incorrect ways, fixed. 
 
Does this mean the "BHV Dominion Spread" bug? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 10th, 2007, 05:09 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				National Security Advisor 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2003 
					Location: Helsinki, Finland 
					
					
						Posts: 5,425
					 
					 
	Thanks: 174 
	
		
			
				Thanked 695 Times in 267 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Not necessarily. It refers to the Vanishing Scales bug and GUI Battle Marker on 1st Turn bug. The BHV Dominion Spread bug may be caused by a different mechanic, in which case the patch would not affect it. If it is caused by essentially the same mechanic, then it may be fixed. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 10th, 2007, 08:19 PM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2007 
					Location: R'lyeh 
					
					
						Posts: 3,861
					 
					 
	Thanks: 144 
	
		
			
				Thanked 403 Times in 176 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		It's probably too late for me to bring this up, but when starting a new game from the command line for a dedicated server there always end up victory points in the map, even if you didn't touch those settings and even if there is no VP victory in the game. Is this supposed to be WAD? Is it possible to turn this off? I'm not that sure if I managed to. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 11th, 2007, 02:35 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2007 
					Location: Poland 
					
					
						Posts: 3,414
					 
					 
	Thanks: 26 
	
		
			
				Thanked 73 Times in 49 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Any estimated time on that patch? It would be nice to know it for all MP games that are going to start... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 11th, 2007, 03:02 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				National Security Advisor 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2003 
					Location: Helsinki, Finland 
					
					
						Posts: 5,425
					 
					 
	Thanks: 174 
	
		
			
				Thanked 695 Times in 267 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				lch said: 
It's probably too late for me to bring this up, but when starting a new game from the command line for a dedicated server there always end up victory points in the map, even if you didn't touch those settings and even if there is no VP victory in the game. Is this supposed to be WAD? Is it possible to turn this off? I'm not that sure if I managed to. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Yay, more red flag issues that I only learn about now. Or if this has been common knowledge, either I missed the reports or nobody saw fit to inform me. It's going into the SYS category of bugs, stat.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 11th, 2007, 03:55 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
			
				
				
				 Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2006 
					Location: Tennessee USA 
					
					
						Posts: 2,059
					 
					 
	Thanks: 229 
	
		
			
				Thanked 106 Times in 71 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Are you talking about how the random map gen still displays the crowns? I think in non VP games they just generate dominion correct? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH NEXT TURN.
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 11th, 2007, 04:59 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				National Security Advisor 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2003 
					Location: Helsinki, Finland 
					
					
						Posts: 5,425
					 
					 
	Thanks: 174 
	
		
			
				Thanked 695 Times in 267 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		Yes, in non-VP games they are free, immobile prophets. That's still a bug. If no VPs are specified, they should not appear. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 11th, 2007, 08:29 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2007 
					Location: R'lyeh 
					
					
						Posts: 3,861
					 
					 
	Thanks: 144 
	
		
			
				Thanked 403 Times in 176 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Edi said: 
Yay, more red flag issues that I only learn about now. Or if this has been common knowledge, either I missed the reports or nobody saw fit to inform me. It's going into the SYS category of bugs, stat.  
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 I've been reporting this at least once on the forums, might even have been up to three times now. But good that it's added now, at least.    
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				December 11th, 2007, 11:02 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				National Security Advisor 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Sep 2003 
					Location: Eastern Finland 
					
					
						Posts: 7,110
					 
					 
	Thanks: 145 
	
		
			
				Thanked 153 Times in 101 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: Anyone else excited about the next patch?
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		As far as what there is to be excited about... 
* Forest shape
 
I take this is like the Siren ability to automatically change forms between land/sea? Well, it's nice and all, but VERY, VERY annoying for modders because they can't use it in their mods. Not that I'm doing a forest-themed mod at the moment, nosiree, not at all. I wouldn't even think of requesting features spesifically for my mod, at all.   
Any way, this could play out in so many ways. Basic troops that have higher defense in forests? Cavalry that has lower stats in forests? Units that are sacred, but only in forests? Any special ability is interesting if you have to take terrain into account... What about one-use, one-shot ranged weapons called "ambush"? So many ideas...  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
	| Thread Tools | 
	
 
	| 
	
	
	
	 | 
	
 
	| Display Modes | 
	
 
	
	
	
	
		  Linear Mode 
		
		
	 
	
	 | 
	
	
 
 
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is On 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
     |  
 |