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Old December 10th, 2007, 11:40 PM

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I've heard that a Phoenix Pyre combined with Soul Vortex just takes armies.

Anyone have experience with that?
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Default Re: Mage Thugs vs Meat Thugs

I tried that combo with a dai oni a couple of times.

It'll wipe out entire armies of chaff, but you tend to get a lot of afflictions, and there are easier ways to get the same effect.

Against really serious opposition, you die faster than you recover fatigue via the soul vortex, or you don't die at all because you're that bad ***.
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Blood Vengence + pheonix pyre + Reinvigorating equip.

If you can get there .
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Default Re: Mage Thugs vs Meat Thugs

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Blood Vengence + pheonix pyre + Reinvigorating equip.

If you can get there .
Well, after just getting my head handed to me by a few of FAJ's SC's I have to agree with him.
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Default Re: Mage Thugs vs Meat Thugs

You really have to love tartarians with great picks.
If you can get a D3F2 tartarian with either A2 or S2(+skullcap) then you can have a raiding soul vortex/phoenix pyre which, to a certain extent, gets rid of the problem DrP mentioned(being unkillable to being killed too much) because not every enemy force will be 'really serious opposition', atleast to your phoenix pyre guy, but sometimes an unexpected problem will come up and he will die - and then explode and reappear elsewhere on the battlefield.

He will stick get a load of afflictions if he does die, but the phoenix pyre is often more life insurance than anything else.
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Phoenix Pyre doesn't really pay off to script. Your Thugs shouldn't be dying against what you fight anyway. Soul Vortex is a safe lock, fire shield being the main fire path buff. Outside of immortal chassis, I rarely find Phoenix Pyre a worthwhile buff.
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I never have an SC/thug cast Pyre with the intent to rely on it to save them, but I think it's well worth the turn it takes to cast to cut down on accidents. I've seen enough instances of a beaten SC blowing up and then successfully fleeing to live another day to underestimate the spell's usefulness, and in most cases the script slot isn't urgently needed elsewhere.
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