"Engineer" APC?

[Mobhack]

My one frustration is that the "carry as passengers" flag can be set for any unit in the scenario editor, but it is not accessible through Mobhack.

The scenario editor deals with the in-game data, which has a flag for protected. It has a variable that stores smoke ammo.

Mobhack has none of that, as the setting of the protected flag is determined by the unit creation code, by reference to the unit class. As is the number of smoke rounds - note lack of any such field in the mobhack editor.

Cheers
andy

[oragus]

Pat,

To me it that sounds like the AVRE carried just one demo expert that was a NCO, capable of solo charge placements, not an entire team. The Churchill is big and roomy but not that big and roomy.

[PatG]

My reading and several websites support that. Rather than the Churchill's 5 crew, the AVRE had a sixth - the demolitions NCO.

The teams I used in testing had only 2 men and were therefore very fragile - the prototypical 1 man would be worse.

For those interested, a bunch of links on the topic of AVREs, extra demo charges and dismounts:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/s...a2690228.shtml

http://www.d-daytanks.org.uk/stories/avre-stories.html

http://www.cwgcuser.org.uk/personal/...e/lifday07.htm

http://www.remuseum.org.uk/campaign/...n_overlord.htm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/s...a2181683.shtml

http://www.d-daytanks.org.uk/articles/avre.html

[Marek_Tucan]

The quote you provided seems to suggest the dismount would happen when not under fir (direct fire, that is) so the fragility may not be such a problem?

[PatG]

The book I quoted earlier refers to beehive charges used at Douvres la Delivrande. Entire crews dismounted to search for mines near the river Odon. Near Le Havre

Lance Sergeant Finan received the MM for working with his five-man AVRE crew dismounted, clearing mines and road blocks under mortar and small arms fire.

Wade charges are mentioned in the fighting in Boulogne.

the first link above says:

The crew also had plenty of ‘standard’ explosives in their Churchill, with names like General Wade, or the Beehive. These could be planted against a pillbox or concrete obstacle using the tank as cover, and then blown up from the safety of the tank. Churchill tanks normally had 5 crew, but in the AVRE there was a sixth member, the demolition NCO, who looked after this huge amount of explosive.

So certainly the demolitions NCO did sometimes dismount to place charges or carry out other engineering tasks under fire. However, this is already handled in the game by the obstacle removing capability of engineering tanks. The dismounts are fun to muck around with though .

[PatG]

Thanks for the explanation Andy. That absolutely puts dismountable engineers in the scenario only category.