EA Oceania - Knight of the deep too good?

[Baalz]

Don't forget to, EA Oceana has some real difficulty getting astral mages so mind hunting should be a field day if you can last that long. Not only do none of thier nationals have astral, as far as I know none of the underwater indies have it either. Outside of thier pretender...I guess they could give waterbreathing rings to lizard shamen if they managed to get out of the water at all...

[atul]

You really did wait your while to tell that tidbit, didn't you? ;p

After initial rush, Oceania doesn't have that many things going for it. Magic-wise, against Atlantis, hm, guess only nature. Against astral. Yay. But it sure takes a while to get there.

[Baalz]

atul said:
You really did wait your while to tell that tidbit, didn't you? ;p

I would never think of denying you the joy of finding out what I've concocted as it's dropped on your head! Besides, this is a 'how to beat Oceana' thread, not a 'how to help Oceana beat the snot out of Atlantis'

I've only hit you with one so far though, I guess we'll test my thesis as to how effective it'll be in the coming turns. Nice thing about Atlantis though, easy access to rune smashers, eyes of the void and spell foci as well as the boosters to get failry cheap astral-4 casters. Even if a couple do get feebleminded, easy enough to swap all the equipment over to another 180 gold guy and reforge the eye of the void.

The down side is the research required for mind hunting takes doubly long as it's two schools that are otherwise very low priority for Atlantis (you also need construction, but you already need that anyway). But, as I said you should have a mage (and consequently research) lead on Oceana, so do your best to stall them until you can leverage it. Don't like to think how things would have played out if I'd started next to you....

[Loren]

Baalz said:
Don't forget to, EA Oceana has some real difficulty getting astral mages so mind hunting should be a field day if you can last that long. Not only do none of thier nationals have astral, as far as I know none of the underwater indies have it either. Outside of thier pretender...I guess they could give waterbreathing rings to lizard shamen if they managed to get out of the water at all...

Yeah, I'm taking a second crack at EA Oceania against the AI's, this time against a pack of impossibles. At this point I have one astral mage--by empowerment from clams.

[atul]

I think the placement of the sea nations by DrP was quite deliberate - 2 duels in the early game, and sea winners duel at the mid game. In hindsight I should've just run over EA R'lyeh instead of wasting few turns trying to see whether there was any good opportunities to surface. Oh well, next time I know.

EA Oceania is really strong early on, but on sufficiently large maps/seas it starts to show they're the only underwater nation without Astral.

[bgqsl]

Since i know it's a big team duel,and it's possible to get help from allies,maybe you can start your SC god as a Son of the sea,take w6s4d3 or w6s6,o2s3c3g1m1 scale with dom6.Start magic research alteration 3 and enchantment 1,ask your allies give eye shield,fire brand,dragon helm,chainmail of displacement,boots of the messenger,ring of regeneration,amulet of resilience,equip your SC god and script battle order asersonal luck,body ethereal,quicken self,breath of winter,attack close.It's much better than the Kraken SC.It's cost your team 35 N gems and 10 A gems and 15 other gems,but if you lost,your team lost the contral of the sea,it's worth it.
Now you have an unbeatable SC,i have tested it three times,first two i let 2 bishop fish with 50 Kotds to attack the SC,and then i let 3 bishop fish with 100 kotds attack,three times the SC takes easy win.only the final time he get weakened.So if you really unlucky and got your SC take a nasty wound like feeble mind at early start,you lost the game.Besides that,your SC can lead you to middle-late game.(btw,eye shield works on high mr kotds,and all three battle take place on you own dominions.and i tested it with f9s9 bless,with fr 100,it's ok to beat the kotds.)

[Agrajag]

bgqsl, would it bother you terribly to stop using the letter 'u' as a word?

[Aezeal]

ow no he didn't really edit that.. why r u whining about u's lol... it's not like his post was that bad...

[llamabeast]

Aaagh Aezeal, stop it! I'm with Agrajag