Need advice - MA Nation, Strategy and Pretender

FedSlayer · #1 January 3rd, 2008, 08:59 PM

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Sombre said:
Order 3, Prod 3, Heat 3, Death 2, Turmoil 2, Magic 1?

vfb corrected that Prod to Sloth, but you can't have Order 3 AND Trumoil 2, so I'm guessing the 2 grenades are misfortune making that Order 3, Sloth 3, Heat 3, Death 2, Misfortune 2 and Magic 1

Not good tiles, but he has to pay for Dominion and pretender's magic levels somewhere.

vfb · #2 January 3rd, 2008, 09:08 PM

Oops yeah, grenades are Misfortune, not Turmoil. Probably what Sombre meant anyway.

Order 3 - Misfortune 2 is no problem really, especially when Death is only at 2.

Magic 1 is just as good as Magic 2, except actually it's better because it's cheaper

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And bad scales with high dominion are actually good. If I push my dominion into an enemy province, they don't get the good scales (Order). So those provinces end up with Order-0, Sloth-3, Heat-3, Misfortune-2, Death-2, which can give some unpleasant random events.

Zeldor · #3 January 3rd, 2008, 09:13 PM

I wouldn't be so sure about misfortune. You can survive and then live well or you can have bad luck and you can lose the game withing 10 turns because of misfortune. And taking misfortune and death is almost suicide. You get extremely nasty events together [though some need death3]. Heat 3 is also not so nice, it does not have only that visible effects

And connected with Death 2 would make really tiny supply limit.

Anyway, what do you need that points for? That would make 740 points for pretender and dominion strength... he won't take ultra bless with TC.

Rytek · #4 January 3rd, 2008, 09:15 PM

I like the very effiecent Lady of fortune:
Awake.
S6W4
Dom 6 with 2 plus scales:
[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif[/img]

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Waterdrop.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Grenade.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon07.gif[/img]

The cold 1 scale because your opponents like it hot.

vfb · #5 January 3rd, 2008, 09:25 PM

Nice choice for the Growth and Cold icons! But I would have done a clover instead of a die for Luck. And I think the pink brain is more color-coordinated and thematic for Magic research.

FedSlayer · #6 January 3rd, 2008, 09:42 PM

Okay, I give up on irc and java chat.

FedSlayer · #7 January 3rd, 2008, 09:57 PM

vfb is taking an AWAKE Dragon with F9, so he has to tkae those scales.

My problem is now deciding what to do about an awake dragon and all those bandor log sacred troops with +4 attack and fire weapons.

Zeldor · #8 January 3rd, 2008, 10:00 PM

You have many water mages. Hmm... does Rain also work against fire weapons like against Abysians?

FedSlayer · #9 January 3rd, 2008, 10:17 PM

How about an awake W6 Mother of waters with Dom7 and:

[img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon41.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Running.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Waterdrop.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Waterdrop.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/PointUp.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/Grenade.gif[/img] [img]/threads/images/Graemlins/icon24.gif[/img]

Or in English Order 3, Productivity 1, Cold 2, Growth 1, Misfortune 1, Magic 1

Rytek · #10 January 3rd, 2008, 10:52 PM

You really should have Astral or Air on your pretender. You will really regret it mid-game. And if you go with Astral you need a minimum of 6 because of mind duel.
Counter his tiger blesseds with your regular calvary and archers. lances should put a hurting on F9 tigers due to no defense, although your losses will be big in return, you should be able to out produce him.