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Old January 6th, 2008, 10:57 AM
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On the subject of StuGs: why do we have both a StuGIIIA and 'B in the game? They seem to be identical.
Please indicate what unit number these "StuGIIIA and 'B" are in the game. There are 10 "StuG IIIg" in the OOB's in three different unit classes none of which are identified as "A" or "B". If you can tell me the unit numbers it would be most helpful to me to tell you what the differences are ( but you might want to look close at the ammo loadouts )

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I believe he means units 35 and 320

Regarding the MG issue, maybe that's an attempt to represent the use of the gun shield?
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Old January 6th, 2008, 03:08 PM
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Apologies for the oversight, Don: yes, it is the two items 35 and 320 which AMX has highlighted. Ammo loadouts and armour thickness are identical.
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Default Re: Minor German OOB error

The service dates do differ.

Probably something that could have been covered by an a/b combined model as they are identical in game terms. However now they are in the database, deleting one or other would need a complete check of all existing scenarios to see if one or the other is used, as the removal of the thing may bork these.

About the only thing I could think of doing to these (if anything), is to make the B model an X0 radio code (common) and leave the A model with an X1 (less common) radio code.

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My mistake. I saw "StuGIIIA and 'B" and read "StuG IIIG" then couldn't find anything wrong with the "G"s

This addition goes back years. I went back to a copy of DOS vers 5.6 from 2002 and it was there as well and I'm betting it goes back further than that.

There is a "StuG IIIa" and a "StuG IIIb" because, in reality, there were "StuG IIIa"s and "StuG IIIb"s and for all game purposes they ARE identical . This is, I am nearly 100% sure, the result of someone in the past wanting to add more "realism" for "completness" to the OOB.

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There is a "StuG IIIa" and a "StuG IIIb" because, in reality, there were "StuG IIIa"s and "StuG IIIb"s and for all game purposes they ARE identical . This is, I am nearly 100% sure, the result of someone in the past wanting to add more "realism" for "completness" to the OOB.
I fully understand the above. Why then in OOB v5.0 the StuG IIIb has an odd SMG? (unit 035 / oob 16)
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