Can a Mage be Both Communion Slave *and* Master?

Jazzepi · #1 January 19th, 2008, 10:39 PM

The order that your commanders (mages) act is determined by a hidden number called their Unit ID. This is a unique number that each unit has to keep track of them in the game. Apparently they're also recycled after a unit dies.

What's more important is that you can not see this ID number, so the only way to tell which units will act first in combat is to have all those units in a single province, go to army setup, and look at the order in which they appear. This is the order they will act during a battle.

The problem with this is that if you have two armies that you want to merge in a large fight, both with communion masters/slaves in them, it's impossible to tell which order they'll act in. In that case, you can not rely on your communion slaves for combat casting as the order that they act in is unpredictable.

Jazzepi

Agrajag · #2 January 20th, 2008, 07:10 AM

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Jazzepi said:
The problem with this is that if you have two armies that you want to merge in a large fight, both with communion masters/slaves in them, it's impossible to tell which order they'll act in. In that case, you can not rely on your communion slaves for combat casting as the order that they act in is unpredictable.

1) Switch to the province you are planning a combined attack on.
2) Click 'y'.
3) ???
4) Profit!

capnq · #3 January 20th, 2008, 07:55 AM

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Agrajag said:

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Jazzepi said:
The problem with this is that if you have two armies that you want to merge in a large fight, both with communion masters/slaves in them, it's impossible to tell which order they'll act in. In that case, you can not rely on your communion slaves for combat casting as the order that they act in is unpredictable.

1) Switch to the province you are planning a combined attack on.
2) Click 'y'.

Behold the power of reading the manual!

I had to check the hotkeys list to find out what 'y' does. I had no idea that command was available.

Jazzepi · #4 January 20th, 2008, 11:34 AM

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Agrajag said:

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Jazzepi said:
The problem with this is that if you have two armies that you want to merge in a large fight, both with communion masters/slaves in them, it's impossible to tell which order they'll act in. In that case, you can not rely on your communion slaves for combat casting as the order that they act in is unpredictable.

1) Switch to the province you are planning a combined attack on.
2) Click 'y'.
3) ???
4) Profit!

Nice, I never thought of that. It works well if you've got both armies moving into the same place. I don't think that Y accounts for teleported commanders though =\

Jazzepi

vfb · #5 January 20th, 2008, 12:22 PM

In some cases you can fake it by ordering all armies to move into a province that is not really the province you are attacking, use 'Y' to sort out battle scripts and commands, then give the orders for the real move (or teleport). If the armies are all coming together from all over the map, then you're out of luck.