Red OOB

KraMax · #1 January 28th, 2008, 01:46 PM

Hello Don.

The site which you quoted - certainly exact enough, but also is not deprived errors. On this site it is possible to esteem well creation history, the basic differences, etc. Though if I am fair I do not know where here the truth, but nevertheless - here on this site: http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen...ontanki/10/-in table IS-2M very first a cell - here it is specified 1954. This site contains the strict statistics and the general information. This site contains the help information almost on all to the technician of the USSR and Russia. This site is very often updated and regularly supported. I trust this site more. Also there is an electronic edition of magazine on the military technics let out in Russia - http://mk-armour.narod.ru/1996/03/02.htm - here too in the second paragraph is spoken about that that these tanks were modernised in 1954.

Best regards

DRG · #2 January 28th, 2008, 01:54 PM

And also consider if it was modernized in 1954 it wouldn't make it to the troops until 1955.

Conflicting information is what makes OOB work such a joy and one very important reason why no OOB will ever be "perfect" .

I recently found one webiste that listed Belgium as a user of the BM-30 Smerch.

Don

KraMax · #3 January 28th, 2008, 01:59 PM

Don
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OK, when were the IS-IIIM's taken out of service then ?
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Here that I have found about modernised tanks IS-3M:

"It is necessary to underline, that modernisation has substantially raised reliability of the tank. However its century has already been measured. After modernisation tanks went to parks where were put on long-term storage."

Also it were known that some tanks are transferred Warsaw Pact, Korea, Egypt and other.

I.e. these tanks rose in a reserve of army of the USSR.

KraMax · #4 January 28th, 2008, 02:05 PM

I agree that some ambiguity is. Probably that so it is put actually in armies in 1955, I have not found the information on it is on all tanks known to us and other cars, apc etc. we always took for a basis the information on direct deliveries of tanks in armies if such information at us was.

DRG · #5 January 28th, 2008, 02:06 PM

So, as is common with things like this, we "guess" when they went OOS.

I'm going to "guess" the IS-IIIM went OOS in 1975 though 1970 would also be a resonable "guess"

Don

KraMax · #6 January 28th, 2008, 02:14 PM

What is OOS?

DRG · #7 January 28th, 2008, 02:49 PM

Out Of Service.

KraMax · #8 January 28th, 2008, 03:05 PM

Quote:

DRG said:
So, as is common with things like this, we "guess" when they went OOS.

I'm going to "guess" the IS-IIIM went OOS in 1975 though 1970 would also be a resonable "guess"

Don

I yet have not found such data.

DRG · #9 January 28th, 2008, 03:30 PM

Well if you do let us know

Thanks

Don