MA Marignon

[Zeldor]

parcelt:

But that is true for almost every nation that does not have really strong rush troops, including TC, C'tis and many many others. That's why Arco is so good - early elephants and late mages.

[parcelt]

I agree that it's true to a greater or lesser extent for a lot nations. What it comes down to is trade-offs, making though choices, but also trying to find some neutralizing factors - e.g. taking death scales when playing C'tis can free up points, you don't really have that option with Marignon.

I guess I just meant to say that in my experience the choices and trade-offs for Marignon just always seem a lot harder than for most other nations, and always seem to leave you more vulnerable on some aspect.

[Zeldor]

parcelt:

MA C'tis and death scale? Their Miasma dominion does not kill his own people. And he cannot reanimate any undead.

[Sir_Dr_D]

A bless usually means you can expand faster, which usually means that you are less likely to be targeted with a bless rush. You can also defend against a bless rush with xbows + flaming arrows.

[Nikolai]

> You can also defend against a bless rush with xbows + flaming arrows.

You mean cannot, right? By time you have flaming arrows...

[otthegreat]

I agree Nikolai. With mages as Marignon's only army commanders its hard to build up good research. Its just about impossible to reach level 4 (I think fire arrows are level 4) in time to counter any rush.

[Aethyr]

Sir_Dr_D said:
A bless usually means you can expand faster, which usually means that you are less likely to be targeted with a bless rush. You can also defend against a bless rush with xbows + flaming arrows.

Well, as the victim of Parcelt's rush strategy I have to flaming xbows say it depends on the unit & bless. Against some units, maybe. Against quickend, beserk centaurs? I doubt it, but I'll let you know how it turns out.

[John_Madlock]

Originally Posted by WraithLord

6. Angels are one of this nations prominent powers. Plan to use them often and well. All the angel types have their uses as SCs/ anti SCs/ Raiders.
8. The above makes research order clear. Evoc. 4 (holy pyre, fireball). Summon. 7 (angels). Alt. 3 (SC buffs). Const 4 (SC basic items). Thaum 3 (elemental search, mind burn, teleport).
9. The above makes optimal pretender clear. Cheap rainbow mage (don't worry about high dominion due to good preachers). E4-6, N2-4, A2-4, W2-4, D2-4, the rest are optional. Dominion 5-7.

How can you summon angels without at least additional S2 for Pretender?

[Soyweiser]

Originally Posted by John_Madlock

How can you summon angels without at least additional S2 for Pretender?

... national mages? You know, the ones that have access to s2-4...