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February 5th, 2008, 03:59 PM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Thank you. It is always nice when someone finds a use for something I have made.
The stuff here, I hasten to add, is not all WWII and 50s era. Most of the jets and so on are, minus the VTOL, although the two early designs (VJ 101 C) were 50s prototypes. But the Helicopters, well those are mostly 60s, 70s and 80s designs I am afraid. At a push the Do. 205 Could be used as a post WWII helicopter. But only at a push.
Armour wise you should not have ay problems. You have two E-100s, one with a 128mm gun the other with the 150mm gun and the E-90 (Kaisertiger - you are free to change the name, I made it up) as well as two lighter Tiger IIIs which, I thought, might serve as Tiger II Ds. They are up armoured and reconfigured Tiger IIs anyway. In my OOB they serve, first as interim heavy tanks, until the E-90 is finished, and then as MBTs alongside the Panther IIs until the Leopards come along (65 or something like that).
As for APCs, the HS30s and SPz 252s make a nice addition to any Kampfgruppe, especially now that they have been improved (HS30s are bigger and the SPz. 252 looks nicer than it did before) Both weapon systems provide their own support variants so at least you will have uniformity in the Kampfgruppe with whichever you pick. I have the 252s as precursors to the HS30 L/HS30 S models which kick in in the 50s. The 252s are not retired until 1958, I think.
I am thinking of making some new icons for a light recon tank (the Leopard was its name apparently - it was based off of the Hetzer Chasis) and an E-100 Schützenpanzer variant. Obscene as it may sound, that is just what some genius had in mind for them. I can't think of a better vehicle in which to stick troops in. Very safe. I need to look at some more schematics first in order to figure out where the engine will go. As you are working in a more combat orientated time line I should imagine you might like the Büffels to be equipped with some ATGM type equipment for support work. I can do that too. Infact I will do it now.
Here they are: Camo variant (x2 turret and hull) and grey variant (turret only) with the added ATGM. Do use the Grey Icons too. They look much better, in my opinion, that way.
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February 5th, 2008, 09:44 PM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Here is that Recon Tank I was telling you about. Felgrau, desert and Camo as standard.
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February 8th, 2008, 04:12 AM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
RM
Thanks again, I'll DL later today as I'm at work now and this rig won't let me open stuff.
I think I'll start work on my amended OOB anyway, but complete this campaign as is. I may have some ideas to bounce off you later. How much trouble would it be to add two rocket pods to each side of the Fa 223 and or mod it somewhat to reflect later purpose built Attack Helo.
I'll be back later today.
Bob Out
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February 8th, 2008, 02:46 PM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Here is the Drache (with rocket pod and HMG) and two Flettners, one with x2 LMGs the other without. The Flettner makes a nice recon. Hubschrauber.
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February 8th, 2008, 07:24 PM
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First Lieutenant
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Good day RM
The Camo Bueffel & the Spaehpanzer Leopard are excellent. Me ol'noggin' is reelin' with all the possibities I have now.
Thank in adavnace for the Drache and the Flettners, but you forgot the attachments.
Cheers
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February 10th, 2008, 01:53 AM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Good day, RM
The Drache and the two Flettners are very nice and have places in my twisted vision of a time never seen. I'm hoping this coming weekend to start in earnest on my amended OOB's.
Again I can't thank you enough along with others for your excellent work.
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February 10th, 2008, 04:22 AM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Continued from War Diary, SSKG Griffin 19 Oct 1945,
The day’s events played out almost as anticipated and with minimal casualties. The northern objectives were held with little effort against the remaining infantry. As a result the Jaguars committed there were able to swing south and eliminate an attempt to reinforce with several platoons of Firefly’s. The western main road was taken and held at the cost of one Cheetah. one Panther (Recce) and a Rommel plus some of my boys were caught in several half-hearted barrages. The rest of the enemies attacking armour (Mostly Firefly’s) were caught at long range as they tried to manoeuvre on to the road from the south. This turned out to be the Canadians major effort here. Its destruction ended this engagement.
Of note on this day, we experimented with combat rearming of the Hubz; two aircraft were successful and returned on station after about 25 minutes. They were ready as the battle ended but this may prove useful in longer engagements or in a interdiction role. One other Hubz suffered minor damage from ground fire.
The Canadians seemed to have adopted the 17pdr gun now, as it’s main gun on all armour. As well a tank with 4 x 20mm guns was fielded, two were knocked out and at this time are being deployed to the rear and not with the main attacking body where they may have given my Hubz crews a hard time.
Making the KG for the attack on the Suez Canal was now our focus. Our orders had us hitting the Suez north of ISMAILIA with capturing two bridges, a pontoon (difficult) and a rail bridge as the primary objectives. The attack at this time was supposed to be in 3 days. Attached are the initial plans, however the final plan would hinge on what our recce flights and Special Forces bring back on the defences there.
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February 10th, 2008, 04:28 AM
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Re: KG Griffin the Alt History Campaign Continues
Here's the close up map with inital concept of operations for this attack.
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