quickness attack bonus?

[Saulot]

The natural response is a lifedrain weapon + reinvig. items.

Or is that not enough?

[Nikolai]

Last opponents are almost all lifeless - statues, mandragoras, undead. +8 reinvigoration is not enough. Can you drain demons (oni) for energy? That's what he is figthing next.

[Jazzepi]

The key to Jarls is to get the ones that have D3 to cast soul vortex. Against most armies this provides an endless supply of free reinvig.

Jazzepi

[Wick]

If it isn't lifeless then it can be life drained.

[Endoperez]

Thanks to vfb for confirming this:


Spell quickness and bless quickness DO NOT STACK!

I don't know how long this has been the way it is, but Quickness given via the Water spells, Boots of Quickness or other items, Celestial Music of the monkey nations or whatever replaces the 50% quickness given by Water 9 bless. Bless + Quickness == 2x AP, twice the attacks/round.

I don't know how this works relative to Heroic Quickness.

[vfb]

I tested Heroic Quickness with a Harbringer (sent 15 at an indy on a test map and got lucky).

With no equipment or bless:

Basic Action Points: 16
Heroic Ability: +98%
Current Action Points: 31


With Jade Armor:

Basic Action Points: 16
Heroic Ability: +98%
Current Action Points: 46


With just W9 Bless:

Basic Action Points: 16
Heroic Ability: +98%
Current Action Points: 46


With W9 Bless and Jade Armor:

Basic Action Points: 16
Heroic Ability: +98%
Current Action Points: 46


So, stacking Heroic quickness with either spell quickness or W9 bless quickness works, but it is:

AP = (baseAP=16) * (1 + (heroic=.98) + (quickness=1)) Edit: wrong!

It's not base * 1.98 * 2. Edit: wrong!


For some reason spell quickness and W9 quickness give the same boost when stacked with Heroic Quickness!

Edit: No no no! KO has corrected the error of my ways, I forgot to take encumbrance into account. My next post is more correct.

[Endoperez]

Thanks, vfb! So at least Heroic Quickness always stacks with other kinds of quickness. Strange that this went unnoticed for so long...