Guide: Guide to communions

[Baalz]

DonCorazon said:
In addition to Slaves casting a variety of spells, I was referring to the actual casting of Communion Slave and Communion Master. So my question was, in the first round, should all the Communion Slaves cast Communion Slave before any Communion Masters cast Communion Master?

First round doesn't matter, you're not in the communion until after the spell is cast. Of course, the order is the same for every round of combat, so any slaves who go first on round one will also be casting spells in the following rounds, which you may or may not want.

[thejeff]

And, just to be clear, all slaves are added to the communion, whenever they cast Communion Slave. (Same with Masters)

The only thing casting order matters for is whether slaves can cast independently or not.

[yandav]

A little question just for fun: what happens if someone cast both communion master and sabbath master?

[Gregstrom]

They kill a blood slave to no good purpose?

[Baalz]

Yeah, there's lots of times that different spells cause the same effect and the second spell doesn't actually do anything.

Strength of giants/rush of strength
Iron Will/Anti magic

And I suppose
Regeneration/personal regeneration
etc.

[capnq]

thejeff said: The only thing casting order matters for is whether slaves can cast independently or not.

I just noticed that according to the stickied Bug Thread: The Shortlist, slaves being able to do this is a bug?

[theenemy]

Nice guide Baalz. To much reading for me but it was still great. I always had it tough using communion since I didn't understand how to use it.

[Twan]

Do someone know how to know the order of mages coming from different provinces ? Is it sure the one displayed with "y" is the good one, and if I send mages to a province where there are already some, will those already in the province cast first ?

I try to do a (partially reverse) communion with mages coming from 4 provinces to one where there are already some communiants, using 'y' to see the order (but as all can't move to a same province I can't be totally sure, as all mages can't move to the same province I'm forced to do false moves to group destination mages with one other group then another etc..., and I'm not even sure 'y' works for that purpose).

ps :

I just noticed that according to the stickied Bug Thread: The Shortlist, slaves being able to do this is a bug?

The strange thing is : nowhere in the spell description or manual it is said that slaves aren't supposed to be able to cast (nor "to be able only if they cast before master"). I think communion slave spell description should be changed to be more clear (as it is, only old dom2 players remembering dom2 manual may know that casting slaves isn't a normal behavior).

[Kuritza]

I must say, its a really cool feature. Dunno, perhaps it makes communions overpowered, but its cool for sure. Finally, some use to Power of the spheres that costs too much fatique otherwise.

[LDiCesare]

It's clearly a bug imo.
Either all slaves can cast spells or none of them, but those who have a lower id can cast is indeed buggy.

Now, if you use 32 communicants and 1 master just to empower them, you don't really need the master to cast spells afterward anyway.