Scales bugs in Dom3.14

[Sir_Dr_D]

If thats the way that it works Endoperez then it sounds like a deliberate feature. Whether or not it is a feature that imbalances things, I don't know.
- It might now balance dominion with the other pretender points, or it may be unfairly forcing everyone to take high dominion.
- Water nations on maps like Cradle will be hit hit the hardets, but hopefully land nations will now respect a water nations right to have the land provinces surrounding their capital.
- This will now make stealthy priests more valuable, as they can now lower the enemies dominion in a province beside the enemies captial, and ruin the enemies scales. (But id this is a bug and not a "feature", this should be considered an exploit )
- This will prevent order rushes at the beginning of the game, where with a high income, production, and by buying mercenaries you can quickly expand. This may encourage people to take awake pretenders, with blesses, but bad scales even more.

Mostly I just want to khow how the bug behaves, so i can learn how to control it, and adjust my strategies.

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Sir_Dr_D said:
If thats the way that it works Endoperez then it sounds like a deliberate feature. Whether or not it is a feature that imbalances things, I don't know.
- It might now balance dominion with the other pretender points, or it may be unfairly forcing everyone to take high dominion.
- Water nations on maps like Cradle will be hit hit the hardets, but hopefully land nations will now respect a water nations right to have the land provinces surrounding their capital.
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You don't need to own the province neighbors. You need your dominion in the province neighbors.

Also, if this is by design, then I think all capitols should start with neutral scales in turn 1.

[thejeff]

Also if it's by design it really should, thematically speaking , affect all scales, good and bad, equally.

Especially when not all the bad scales are bad for all nations. Temperature scales are the obvious ones, but if Pans can start spawning Maeneads in high Turmoil at once and their enemy can't afford troops since he lost his Order, for example.

And why not Luck and Magic? Sounds like somethings being checked from the top of the list. Order is most likely to be affected and Magic the least?

[Nikolai]

I know I am never playing with Dominion under nine anymore. I hate new 'feature'. It removes many builds, it hurts low/high temperature nations...

Dominion already propagated. Neighbor province dominion already affected _dominion_ in capital. Why should scales be affected too?

I can see for temperature, but if my people in border province strongly believe in my Pretender's ideals, like discipline and hard work, why should they care that Pangaeans across border spend their time partying? It's one thing being penalized for losing dominion battle in your own lands. It's another for scales to spread across borders no matter what.

[Kristoffer O]

The scale spread bug is fixed.

It was an entirely new bug introduced with the 3.14 feature of scale spreading dominions (similar to heat/cold spreading dominions).

We have introduced the possibility to have your order/turmoil, death/growth spread outside your dominion just like the niefel/abysian dominions spread cold/heat. IIRC no nation has these features yet, but it might be possible to mod already.

Possible candidates are Pangaea turmoil and Ermor death.

[Velusion]

Kristoffer O said:
The scale spread bug is fixed.

It was an entirely new bug introduced with the 3.14 feature of scale spreading dominions (similar to heat/cold spreading dominions).

We have introduced the possibility to have your order/turmoil, death/growth spread outside your dominion just like the niefel/abysian dominions spread cold/heat. IIRC no nation has these features yet, but it might be possible to mod already.

Possible candidates are Pangaea turmoil and Ermor death.

Sweet. I assume it will be available with the next patch?

[Zeldor]

I would like to see patch released that week even if it had only that thing fixed.

[Nikolai]

> I would like to see patch released that week even if it had only that thing fixed.

Seconded! This 'feature' is destroying me in the games I started with my standard dominion of five.