Acouchi - MA game for new players (full)

Karlem · #1 February 22nd, 2008, 07:21 PM

Me too Darkstone, me too

but this turn Ryleh has attacked me again.... XD

Karlem · #2 February 22nd, 2008, 07:32 PM

As far as I know a NAP 3 turns means that you have to say 3 turns in advance that you are going to break it, isn't it?

This is the wonderful message that I have received from Ryleh:

"I am sorry but our 3 turns NAP has expired and my forces need a place to expand after Ulm has pushed me out"

Perhaps Ryelh or me is misunderstanding what a NAP 3 turns means... could anyone more experienced clarify what a 3 turn NAP means?

klagrok · #3 February 22nd, 2008, 11:51 PM

It means that you have to give 3 turns notice before hostilities commence....but then again some people might not have ever played a game with a NAP so I can see where there might be some confusion. Usually once you set a NAP in any game I have ever played you dont attack out of the blue--unless of course you dont care about consequences.

Ylvali · #4 February 23rd, 2008, 07:01 AM

I guess klagrok is correct in that this is a newbie mistake. I probably could have made it myself since this is my first MP game and have never heard of this NAP praxis.

This being a newbie game, it is probably best to assume no one knows anything about MP customs when making agreements.

Karlem · #5 February 23rd, 2008, 07:43 AM

Well, but if you do not know what a NAP 3 turns means normal thing is to read or ask about it, not to propose something that you do not know (read the atachment HE proposed it to me!).

I can accept that it is a newbie "mistake" and not make a fuse and publically state that Miagi is a treacher but I want a compensation for that mistake otherwise now that is clear that it is a "mistake" if the person does not undo it... well it's obvious that it is not a mistake but something done on purpose.

So Ryleh, what are you? A treacher that breaks NAPs or a newbie that made a mistake and is going to retreat and after retreating completely of my lands take 3 turns and then attack? It is up to you.

Ps.- If you pillage and 200% tax the lands i will assume also that you are a treacher also taking benefits that should not come from such a "mistake".

Ylvali · #6 February 23rd, 2008, 08:14 AM

He proposed it? Well then he should know what it means.

Heinrich · #7 February 23rd, 2008, 08:26 AM

May the world know the word of Heinrich Kruger, Prince of Metals, wise ruler of Ulm:

Let me tell you the story of the beautiful Bixia Nuanjin, Imperial Consort of Tien Chi, who managed to infiltrate the mighty Keep of Ulm.

Bixia Nuanjin was working daily in the kitchen of the Keep, serving garrison as well as nobles smiths and commanders.

But she was known for her nightly activities. Rumours were spreading in the Keep of her numerous lovers fighting each other to get her favours.

She was finally caught by a jealous lover who found her stealing parchments in my laboratory.

She was tortured and convinced as a spy of Tien Chi.

Then she was brought to the pillory, had her hairs shaved and turned all over the town allowing our fellow citizens to give her the punishment she deserved.

She was finally beheaded and quartered, as this is the fate for those of her kind.

May his death be a lesson to whoever tries to spy our lands.

meister_miagi · #8 February 23rd, 2008, 10:27 AM

I thought our agreement was no to attack each other for 3 Turns, that's why I wrote in my proposal that we could negotiate further agreements after three turns. I am sorry, I didn't know a NAP meant you had to give three turns notice. Someone else in this offered me a 10 Turn NAP, which I accepted thinking we would have 10 Turns of peace.
I dind't raise the tax to 200 or pillage and I will retreat my forces immediately.