Is is possible to cheat?

DavidG · #1 March 27th, 2002, 01:48 AM

Games stats were: single planet start, Home planet: bad, Tech level: low, Tech cost: Medium
Player stats are: Scientist, Inteligence: superior

quote:
Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
That depends. What size start was it, what's his culture, and what's his Intelligence attribute.
Phoenix-D

Lisif Deoral · #2 March 27th, 2002, 01:56 AM

I suspect that it might be possible to cheat (in some way) on a PBW game. Anyway, I can't imagine how a player could get extra research points or techs.
It is obviously possible if the game is hosted by a player (just as an example, he could mod the game without letting you know...).
BTW, he might have traded techs. I took part in a large game once (20 empires, no AIs, IIRC): extensive (and planned) tech trading among allies speeds up the process a lot.

PvK · #3 March 27th, 2002, 02:04 AM

Yes, trading techs with allies (especially if they coordinate to research different fields), and/or conquering AI's can let you fly through the techs.

PvK

Gimboid · #4 March 27th, 2002, 02:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by DavidG:
Games stats were: single planet start, Home planet: bad, Tech level: low, Tech cost: Medium
Player stats are: Scientist, Inteligence: superior

All these points listed above might make one lean towards thinking that the possibility of cheating exists, but i know that in a single planet start game i will have 50k+ research points before turn 40. And if i wasnt building up my minerals and military infrastructure i could probably have close to 100k by turn 40.

Thru a combination of a few lucky ruins and a determined research focus on the technologies you have listed him as having it might be possible to get that level of technology that early in the game.

And as PvK said any ai takeovers are a bonus to all your resource production. If he has taken over a few of the nearest neighbours he could have huge research production by now (approaching 150k possibly)

DavidG · #5 March 27th, 2002, 02:20 AM

I just whish I had some idea how it was possible cause I'd hate to be the sore loser that accusing someone of cheating just cause he beat me.
Tech trading is allowed in game and no AI players and 6 humans with only one dead so far.
To sum up the tech he has (that I know of):
Mines lvl 1 (and thus Constrution 1)
Ship Const lvl 4
Propulsion lvl 4
Religous tech lvl 4
Armour lvl 3 (and this Chemistry 1)
Stellar harnessing lvl 6
Explosive warheads lvl 3
Missle lvl 2
P.D. Weapons lvl 5 (and thus military science)
Projectile lvl 5.
and one extra colonization tech (likely from dead guy)

Gimboid · #6 March 27th, 2002, 02:30 AM

Is this a PBW game?

If it is then tell me which game and i can take a look at his turn. If its clean then no worries

I am still of the belief that its possible to achieve what he has.

Send details by email if u would prefer not to advertise which game in these forums

Gimboid
PBW Admin Team

PvK · #7 March 27th, 2002, 03:47 AM

Ya, I think it is (exceptional but) possible. The second colony tech is a clue that he has a tech partnership or at least consumed one or more AI players - not only does taking an AI get you their planets and facilities, but it also gives you +1 level in all their superior visible techs. Or, both - he could've absorbed an AI AND be partnering with someone and sharing techs and coordinating research efforts. Also, you said he was a scientist culture with superior intelligence, so I think that sounds pretty likely. He probably concentrated on religious tech to get the talismans. Best bet may be to get minsweeper tech 2 and try for a fatal stab - he may be weak in production/maintenance/repair/contrstruction and some other areas.

Or, probably wiser than an attempted strike: try to find another human player or two and explain that there is a mega-techno-alliance that needs to be countered!

PvK