Acouchi - MA game for new players (full)

Ylvali · #1 February 23rd, 2008, 07:01 AM

I guess klagrok is correct in that this is a newbie mistake. I probably could have made it myself since this is my first MP game and have never heard of this NAP praxis.

This being a newbie game, it is probably best to assume no one knows anything about MP customs when making agreements.

Karlem · #2 February 23rd, 2008, 07:43 AM

Well, but if you do not know what a NAP 3 turns means normal thing is to read or ask about it, not to propose something that you do not know (read the atachment HE proposed it to me!).

I can accept that it is a newbie "mistake" and not make a fuse and publically state that Miagi is a treacher but I want a compensation for that mistake otherwise now that is clear that it is a "mistake" if the person does not undo it... well it's obvious that it is not a mistake but something done on purpose.

So Ryleh, what are you? A treacher that breaks NAPs or a newbie that made a mistake and is going to retreat and after retreating completely of my lands take 3 turns and then attack? It is up to you.

Ps.- If you pillage and 200% tax the lands i will assume also that you are a treacher also taking benefits that should not come from such a "mistake".

Ylvali · #3 February 23rd, 2008, 08:14 AM

He proposed it? Well then he should know what it means.

Heinrich · #4 February 23rd, 2008, 08:26 AM

May the world know the word of Heinrich Kruger, Prince of Metals, wise ruler of Ulm:

Let me tell you the story of the beautiful Bixia Nuanjin, Imperial Consort of Tien Chi, who managed to infiltrate the mighty Keep of Ulm.

Bixia Nuanjin was working daily in the kitchen of the Keep, serving garrison as well as nobles smiths and commanders.

But she was known for her nightly activities. Rumours were spreading in the Keep of her numerous lovers fighting each other to get her favours.

She was finally caught by a jealous lover who found her stealing parchments in my laboratory.

She was tortured and convinced as a spy of Tien Chi.

Then she was brought to the pillory, had her hairs shaved and turned all over the town allowing our fellow citizens to give her the punishment she deserved.

She was finally beheaded and quartered, as this is the fate for those of her kind.

May his death be a lesson to whoever tries to spy our lands.

meister_miagi · #5 February 23rd, 2008, 10:27 AM

I thought our agreement was no to attack each other for 3 Turns, that's why I wrote in my proposal that we could negotiate further agreements after three turns. I am sorry, I didn't know a NAP meant you had to give three turns notice. Someone else in this offered me a 10 Turn NAP, which I accepted thinking we would have 10 Turns of peace.
I dind't raise the tax to 200 or pillage and I will retreat my forces immediately.

Karlem · #6 February 23rd, 2008, 11:33 AM

Thanks Meister Miagi, I understand that this is then a misunderstanding and that you are an honorable person. After you retreat we will give us 3 turns and then we will begin, ok?
NAP X means that you give X turns of pre alert before attacking (see klagrok post).

JZ · #7 February 25th, 2008, 12:06 AM

*sigh* And there is another one troubleguy.

"I agree to 20 turns of peace between us, and of course a NAP3. Let us slaughter all the pretenders of the world, before we turn to each other. I think we should have a strong working relationship, perhaps gem or magic item trades."

It was on turn 4 from monkeys, also we agreed on splitting territories. Because I was little occupied monkey took territories that we agreed will be mine and recently declared war before 20 turns are over. I mean, NOW is turn 20 of game

So, another player who thinks that diplomacy is only for his own benefits and that he should not stick to his words.

Omnirizon · #8 February 25th, 2008, 12:53 AM

Was it turn 4? We thought it was turn 2.

But stop quibbling, we sent you a message in honor of the NAP3. We sent the message when we did so the war would start as the peace treaty expired.

At any rate, we didn't attack you as you warred with Ulm, even though that would have been the perfect oppurtunity. We must march on you now only because Nero, of Pythium, is moving in. It would be terribly imprudent of us to allow them to engulf your empire, while we sat happily by.

The monkey kings, in their infinite wisdom, offered your crumbling empire the chance to lay down your arms and join us, to live side by side with the monkey people, under the light of the magnificent Pihmago. But you stubbornly refuse. But Pihmago is a just god, and we still revere the honorable, but decaying empire of Tien Chi. Pihmago will reincarnate your fallen as donkeys in their next life, for your stubborness in this one.