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March 9th, 2008, 07:58 PM
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Re: Halt Heretic - Opinions
There are two problems here, as pertain to this thread.
One (this was mentioned several times) is MA Ulm still has basically no influence from either EA Ulm, or Ermor.
Two, your story (which I confess I like and is logical) conflicts with the dominions storyline and atmosphere in one key way, that it is essentially one of decline and doom. This is I suspect why KO went with the Ashen after the Broken, and the Malediction after the Iron Faith.
Obviously the parallel timelines are what caused these problems, and is a good reminder why parallel universes and time travel should not be touched with a ten foot pole, as they tend to muck everything up.
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March 9th, 2008, 09:48 PM
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Re: Halt Heretic - Opinions
So, like Sombre, I see the progression of Ermor as reasonable. It's fine, then a bit corrupted by death magic, then totally destroyed.
Marverni is essentially the pre-occupation Gauls and Celts, EA Ulm the Germanic tribes. By MA, Ermor has conquered them, and then declined so that Ulm, Marignon and Pythium have broken away. Marverni presumably either remains occupied or is no longer important. Ulm is Germanic again, only much further on in their history - it's a medieval rather than barbaric theme. Marignon is France/Spain in the Inquisition, and Pythium is Byzantium. Sorted!
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March 10th, 2008, 03:57 AM
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Re: Halt Heretic - Opinions
Sombre, Saulot, the reason I place Ashen Empire after EA by preference is because when I once asked about this, Kristoffer said that it was supposed to have happened that way and things got complicated with the introduction of Broken Empire.
The gradual decline model messes with the continuity a lot more than the catastrophic fall, but it's the one we have to live with. The things is that people were asking WTF was up with the Ulm eras and I provided an explanation for it. Black Forest was always supposed to be after the Iron Kingdom just as Pythium was always Byzantium to Ermor's Rome. Ashen Empire and Broken Empire are originally parallel alternates and I think the idea of reclamation never occurred to Illwinter due to the work they had already done on BE in Dom2. So they made it a decline, which then has people asking all these questions about the continuity.
As far as Marverni goes, we have Kristoffer on record saying that Marignon is MA Marverni, meaning the nation changes drastically due to Ermorian influence when going from early to middle era.
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March 11th, 2008, 05:18 AM
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Re: Halt Heretic - Opinions
I like the Halt Heretic trait... it would be nice to see a few summoning spells for units with this trait allowing more than one nation to use this strategy against sacred armies with strong blesses.
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March 11th, 2008, 08:06 AM
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Re: Halt Heretic - Opinions
It would also strip Ulm of one of its best advantages. Ulm pays a heavy price for it - little magic, slow infantry, poor magic resistance... I'm particularly opposed to summonable commanders with 'halt heretic'.
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