Shattered Soul for tartarians. Do tell !

Endoperez · #1 March 16th, 2008, 02:47 PM

That's why you'd set up a Tartarian Hatchery where the tartarians would be until they revoked your rule and became independent. You could even give them non-cursed items that make them vulnerable to magic if any exist...

Xietor · #2 March 16th, 2008, 02:56 PM

I am assuming they can go insane more than once. There is no cure for insanity. Eventually you have to send them out away from your hatchery if they are to serve any purpose.

Sort of like the LA Ryleh insanity. There is a chance it can hit at any time.

lch · #3 March 16th, 2008, 03:01 PM

I don't understand this hatchery idea. And I'd suppose that the Tartarians lose their items when they "revolt".

Foodstamp · #4 March 16th, 2008, 03:08 PM

If not, at the very least they would lose their items if they were captured and GOR'd right? So I am still hoping that is how it is going to work

Xietor · #5 March 16th, 2008, 03:11 PM

New Constr 8 Artifact:

The Crucifix- requires 4f 3h to forge.

1h weapon that can only be used by a living unit with h2 magic. 10 an damage, secondary effect(destroy Evil).

Any undead or demon hit by the Crucifix will be instantly reduced to ashes. Effect is not resistible by any means. Immortal undead will not be raised back in the capital as there is nothing left to raise.

Endoperez · #6 March 16th, 2008, 03:22 PM

I was referring to the post that said they'd become independent like Eater of the Dead. Eater of the Dead becomes independent by means of an event that happens when it changes size and transforms into different unit. Once it has become that unit, it can't become independent again if it's enslaved or charmed.

It might actually be able to do the revolting, if the insanity of the tartarians causes the revolt without shape-changing into the original, living form (Cyclops into living Cyclops etc). In that case, the reason for the revolt (shattered soul) would stay constant even if it was caught again after the first revolt.

Xietor - nice idea, but there are no holy gems.

Foodstamp · #7 March 16th, 2008, 03:27 PM

It's probably just insanity, but one can wish aye?

Xietor · #8 March 16th, 2008, 03:28 PM

you would need fire/astral gems like the ark, just need h magic to forge it.

Maybe instead of "destroy evil," the effect would be to "save soul" or "release soul" allowing the undead or demon to RIP.

A weapon to kill a tartarian instantly would be a good thing-though i do not think they should be common.

Another good counter to sc's would be to add "arm loss" to a constr 6 2h weapon like the gate cleaver, and a "limp" to a constr 6 2h weapon like a Scythe that would seem to be used as a sweep at the legs.

A legless or armless sc would be of limited value!

lch · #9 March 16th, 2008, 05:42 PM

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Endoperez said:
I was referring to the post that said they'd become independent like Eater of the Dead. Eater of the Dead becomes independent by means of an event that happens when it changes size and transforms into different unit. Once it has become that unit, it can't become independent again if it's enslaved or charmed.

I see. I don't expect them to transform either. Even a lot less than keeping commander status, actually.

vfb · #10 March 16th, 2008, 07:47 PM

What does Shattered Soul actually do? Does it actually cause the 'unleashed' effect, like Baalz's idea in the Tartarians thread? (KO: "Speculated in insanity-caused break-frees.") Or is it something milder, similar to R'lyeh insanity? (KO: "I've thought about adding a special kind of insanity for them that is incurable.") Or can they no longer be healed even by the Chalice/GoH? (KO: "Maybe undead shouldn't be healable at all.")

As someone who's never seen the Eater of the Dead, what is the chance per month of becoming unleashed? What happens when it's unleashed? It just attacks the current province? If it's in a province with a castle, and it attacks the current province, I'd imagine it fights outside the castle, not inside, is that correct?