End Game Slaughter Moves

[triqui]

What could I have done to stop this? Is this a well-known end game move?

Not playing with bug exploiting players is an easy solution

[Twan]

If the mist combo is clearly a huge exploit that should result in the ban of the user, I don't think being in the shortlist is a sufficient condition to be one.

There are actually too many things in the "short" list to make the use of all of them bannable.

Some theorical "exploits" are unavoidable without special micro-gestion (ie : communion slaves casting spells) and knowing how to use them is now part of many strategy guides (retro-communion).

As well casting a BE then retreating, when the combat ends normally (no mist) would probably be tolerated by most players (it's just saving a mage after all). And it may also be unavoidable in some cases (ritual of returning, or the mage failing a morale check).

The politic about some that may be seen as national advantages of some nations / units isn't clear either (things like twiceborn on demons are probably used by some players with particular nations but I never seen complaints about their immortal demons in MP threads). I personnally consider this one so powerful I'd include it in the bannable category (in case of systematic use with nations like Lanka) but not sure how the majority of MP players consider this kind of "niche" exploits.

So, perhaps a list of clearly forbidden things in MP should be made, separated from the general bugs list.

[Zeldor]

That's surely a cheat and there is practically nothing you can about it. You should mention that in the game thread and talk with game host. If player repeats that he should be banned from that game. IF host think it is valid move then you know which games to avoid [and you know that host just found a new tactic he will also use next time, probably even build his nation strategy next time].

[CUnknown]

Yeah, cast and run is fine (even still I hope they change it), but it is fine for now.

But Mists of Deception is just plain sick and wrong!

DonCorazon, I feel your pain. The same thing happened to me, except with Wrathful Skies as the damage-dealer. It was maddening. It is not your fault, there is nothing that can be done to stop it. It's just an exploit that needs to be fixed.

[kasnavada]

Cast and run isn't fine either, otherwise it wouldn't be on the bug shortlist...

[Zeldor]

Though it is not so bad cause it is enough to kill remaining enemy troops to stop it. But with mists there is no enemy to fight.

[mathusalem]

is Danse of Morrigan works like Mists of deception ?

[triqui]

So, perhaps a list of clearly forbidden things in MP should be made, separated from the general bugs list.

That would be a nice thing, yes

[Zeldor]

DonCorazon:

Well, you need 1 sections with rules that you must obey ['do not exploit bugs' + list] and a list of definitions of common things [NAPs here, also words like thug, SC, etc.].

[thejeff]

A shortlist of exploits generally considered forbidden would be good, though I suspect there'd be much debate over what got included.

I'd rather not see NAP rules formalized, though. Maybe a clear statement that different people interpret NAP differently, so you should spell out what you mean.
Anything that reduces diplomacy further towards: "NAP-3?", "k" is a bad thing.
I'd much rather encourage a little more roleplaying and actual negotiation instead.