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	| Yes, it's abuse. |      | 143 | 89.38% |  
	| No, it's OK. |      | 0 | 0% |  
	| I do not understand the abuse, or have not thought about it. |      | 17 | 10.63% |  
	
 
 
	
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				March 27th, 2008, 08:53 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Time for a poll. (The subject is abuse) 
 
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		| Xietor said: While flooding a player's lab with slave collars etc is not listed, this is obviously abuse and if it occurred in a game I hosted the offending player would be removed for a sub, or his race set to AI.
 
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	I'd thank him for the supply of slave collars, put it on indy commanders and send them against his mage-backed armies...Quote: 
	
		| Xietor said: While flooding a player's lab with slave collars etc is not listed, this is obviously abuse and if it occurred in a game I hosted the offending player would be removed for a sub, or his race set to AI.
 
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	I'd thank him for the supply of slave collars, put it on indy commanders and send them against his mage-backed armies...Quote: 
	
		| Xietor said: While flooding a player's lab with slave collars etc is not listed, this is obviously abuse and if it occurred in a game I hosted the offending player would be removed for a sub, or his race set to AI.
 
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 |  Yeah, funny answer, except slave collars are never picked up in a battle.  It's been tested.
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		| vfb said: slave collars are never picked up in a battle.  It's been tested.
 
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				 Re: Time for a poll. (The subject is abuse) 
 I find it interesting that people are against BF + Retreat.  Perhaps it is the overall efficacy of the BF enchantments, but it is the only option for those who wish to fight 'elastically'; i.e., by giving ground and exhausting the enemy army.
 I have never run into this myself, so I am not exactly sure what happens.  From what people say in this thread, it sounds like the battle continues indefinitely.  This is an issue with the game code, if so.  If, however, the fight continues only until one side or the other is routed... I see no difficulty with this strategy.
 
 Also, those who are against this strategy (especially the people who run the game and set house rules)... what happens if the caster breaks?  Say I have a Caelian High Seraph who casts Wrathful Skies, and he is intended to stay in the battle the requisite amount of time.  But the opponent causes him to break and run (flying) before that time.  What happens in that situation from a game administration PoV?  To throw it even more into a concern, what happens if someone deliberately puts this combo on a commander who has the Battle Fright affliction, thus making it more likely for said commander to flee?
 
 As far as the rest are concerned... hacking files: bad!  Abusing Bogus commands... bogus!  Burying your opponent underneath a pile of useless items... pretty damn bad.
 
			
			
			
			
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				 Re: Time for a poll. (The subject is abuse) 
 > I'd thank him for the supply of slave collars, put it on indy commanders and send them against his mage-backed armies... 
 I know that you're a good player, so you shoudl be aware that:
 
 1. On the turn it happens you will forge at best one item, possibly none.
 2. The gems you paid will be lost.
 3. Most players do not have 50 indy commanders standing around (75+gold per turn)
 4. Slave collars can't be picked up post-battle, so all you'll do is give xpt.
 
 If you want to thank people for that, you probably thank people for driving
 over your foot.
 
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		| Tuidjy said: > I'd thank him for the supply of slave collars, put it on indy commanders and send them against his mage-backed armies...
 
 I know that you're a good player, so you shoudl be aware that:
 
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				 Re: Time for a poll. (The subject is abuse) 
 Could someone please explain what is meant by "sallying in to a neighborhood province"?  
 Is that when you are under siege, and you give a sneaking commander non-sneaky troops so he attacks a neighboring province in one move from a besieged castle?
 
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				 Re: Time for a poll. (The subject is abuse) 
 You are under siege.  The enemy army thinks it has you surrounded.  Your armyexits the castle, bypasses the besiegers and attacks a neighboring province.
 This trick worked when I first started playing Dominions III, let me check
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 Yup. still works.
 
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				 Re: Time for a poll. (The subject is abuse) 
 I'd like to hear more about what is meant by quickmoving slow troops.  I consider that abusive.. 
 why not have a standard.. like velusions or llama's.  Some games will be open.. some will not - if everyone knows in advance no harm no foul.
 
 But I'd be more interested in games without exploits.  Newbies have enough problems learning the game as intended without having to learn the bugs as well.
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