Global War (use new thread pls)

Kristoffer O · #1 March 28th, 2008, 03:37 PM

Cool idea!

I'm in another game now, so I'll pass, but it sounds very interesting. I'll check in and see how it goes.

CUnknown · #2 March 28th, 2008, 03:41 PM

Okay, QM, Neutrals will be able to talk about whatever they want -except- for coordinating military strikes. I just thought that it was simplier to limit them than tempt them into saying too much.

I mean, can they say: "I am at war with so-and-so. He's got this. I have these forces here with this objective." That is tantamount to military coordination, imo.

In fact, I think I am changing my mind again.. I don't think Neutrals should be allowed to discuss their forces or military objectives. Maybe trading battle screenshots should be okay?

quantum_mechani · #3 March 28th, 2008, 03:43 PM

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CUnknown said:
In fact, I think I am changing my mind again.. I don't think Neutrals should be allowed to discuss their forces or military objectives. Maybe trading battle screenshots should be okay?

I don't think they should be able to discuss their plans, but anything they want to about the current situation, or what they think other nations might be up to.

Cerlin · #4 March 28th, 2008, 03:45 PM

Just hearsay and musing? May be interesting, you would have to trust the neutral player to limit it though...

CUnknown · #5 March 28th, 2008, 03:47 PM

Okay, sounds good QM. Let's make discussing military forces (anyones) off limits, and giving battle screenshots is also off-limits.

But, if you want to say "Hey, I think Ermor is researching to Tartarians, we should gang up on him."

Wait, is that okay?

See, I don't think that is okay, either.

Maybe just as long as all military plans are off limits, including yours. Like, is saying "Just thought you might want to know, Ermor is probably researching like crazy. I think he wants Tartarians, he'll probably get them in 5-10 turns." that okay? Thing is... if the person you are talking to knows you are attacking them currently, then that is almost an attempt at military coordination, imo.

Cerlin · #6 March 28th, 2008, 03:49 PM

Maybe more just like rumors from around the world?

"I hear Pythium and Abysia are at war...and its a stalemate" or something may be ok. That is a pretty neutral statement but at the same time could be used by either side kinda thing.

CUnknown · #7 March 28th, 2008, 03:56 PM

Rumors are cool!

Just no mention of your personal forces. You shouldn't say "I am at war with Ermor." Although you can give a screenshot of the map where Ermor is seiging your capital.

Neutral factions are going like hotcakes!!

Maybe we should allow 3 Neutrals? It's just that I am actually worried about Evil. They should be an unstoppable hoard in the beginning. 8 v 7 is actually not that bad of odds, especially if 3 of the 7 are super-factions with bonuses in the beginning like Iron Mines.

Cerlin · #8 March 28th, 2008, 04:01 PM

Maybe adding more neutrals and making them rumor mills? Like it tends to be going? Maybe giving them a little less gold (like 1000?) Just an idea. If you had 3 of them instead of 2 that may make it more balanced for both sides? So even if people cannot communicate they can get hints and rumors from the neutral players, so they would have value of traders historically. Passing along some hint of how the world is going? And maybe all players could use vague AAR's in the thread to make it interesting? Just some ideas.

Tuidjy · #9 March 28th, 2008, 04:26 PM

If you want rumors, the GM should do it. I think that the only communication
outside the Good league should be a trading thread.

And for my Pythium, it would be MA. I think that the good guys would be
best off with MA Pythium/Marignon/Mictlan/Ulm. By the way, my line up is more
for thematic reasons than for brute force. All four nations are human and seem
to care about their population.

But the more I think about it, the more I believe that the Good are doomed if
the neutrals are allowed to talk besides trade. If I were a neutral, and knew
that at the end ...

Hmm... Why am I not playing EA Jotunheim as neutral, again? :-)

CUnknown · #10 March 28th, 2008, 04:30 PM

Perhaps there should be 5 Good factions.

I keep waffling back and forth on the Neutral talking-ability thing. The best thing about Good is that they can discuss freely.. We should all vote on this issue to decide it.