End Game Slaughter Moves

[Tuidjy]

Edi. Edi! EDI! EDI!!!

Sorry, but Edi is 100% correct.

The claim that Air magic is a weak path is retarded.
MoD, which guarantees a win if you manage to retreat whoever cast it, is abusive.
The claim that MoD is the spell that makes Air magic worth it is beyond retarded.
People who protect abusive exploits with retarded arguments deserve what they get.

[Foodstamp]

Your both way too obsessed and "personally" involved with this issue to the point that you disrespect others.

if you are going to threaten people with public warnings about forum behavior, you should probably lead by example.

[Edi]

To clarify my above post: The beginning of it is an exclamation of disbelief regarding the characterization of air magic as weak. Not meant to be hostile, so my apologies if it was taken that way.

The second half, which brings up the MoD abuse angle is something I do mean. K's post, along with his earlier defense of MoD's current workings being okay gives me the perception that it's about resistance to having something exploitative removed simply because he has gotten used to and comfortable using it when playing an air nation. Whether that perception is correct or not is another issue, but it is how it appears to me.

There is no personal animosity involved on my part here.

[Foodstamp]

That post of yours makes you sound like one of the people who just abuses the crap out of MoD and is complaining at the prospect of having his toy taken away.

Really? You wouldn't find that disrespectful if it was directed towards you?

[Edi]

Foodstamp, yes, if there are any warnings to be dealt out here, won't be by me anymore, because as you said, I'm too involved. Can't act as the judge in a case where I'm a participant. So if anything serious comes up, I'll kick it up to Strider, Daynarr, Mindi and Annette and they'll sort it out.

[Foodstamp]

Aye, when it comes to a grey area like this, it is hard to be unbiased even if you are not personal involved.

Tuidjy is involved in atleast one game where the MOD thing has happened, so by reflex he insults other people who bring up the other side.

This topic is on your shortlist, so it would be crazy for you to stay unbiased through the whole thing, because it would go against something you have documented to be fixed.

The best fix has been mentioned a few times already, to handle it on a game by game basis. The best fix is probably not to tell people they are high, afraid of losing a toy (like they are children), or categorizing their behavior as retarded.

P.S. I mean best fix until the devs alter it (if they alter it).

[K]

Edi said:
To clarify my above post: The beginning of it is an exclamation of disbelief regarding the characterization of air magic as weak. Not meant to be hostile, so my apologies if it was taken that way.

The second half, which brings up the MoD abuse angle is something I do mean. K's post, along with his earlier defense of MoD's current workings being okay gives me the perception that it's about resistance to having something exploitative removed simply because he has gotten used to and comfortable using it when playing an air nation. Whether that perception is correct or not is another issue, but it is how it appears to me.

There is no personal animosity involved on my part here.

I'm used to people on the internet using false arguments to attempt to persuade others because they cannot win the argument. For example, attacking someone's credibilty rather than the points of their argument is a classic false argument.

My apologies. I thought I had a valid point. Considering that a number of people addressed the points of my argument (that Air magic is the weakest path and doesn't need further nerfing) means that at least some posters found it valuable or at least interesting. I didn't intend to start a heated and hurtful confrontation.

[Sir_Dr_D]

I agree with Twan in that Mists of Deception should be not used at all.

Even if your opponent uses Mists of Deception as responsibly as possible, the spell is unbalanced. If your opponent casts it, unless you are lucky enough to kill the caster, you cannot win the battle. And chances are the caster will route.