Primea, newbie MA game (started)

[yandav]

lch said:

Can you remind me again during that time or shortly before so that I reset the timer?

I fear that I won't be able to play between friday 15h GMT and sunday 18h GMT. Is it possible to wait for me?

[lch]

Ok, I'll reset the timer tomorrow, that should buy you enough time. Unless it's hosting tomorrow instead of today, anyway.

[kasnavada]

Ouch.

Another of those battles I could do without. Thankfully, the losses are mainly maenads and militia...

Another question for you though, who put that crazy amount of PD everywhere ?

[cupido2]

I'll bleed you out, Pangea. If you want to negotiate a truce, pm me.

Crazy PD? Me?

[Shigure]

Oh, Caelum, you fools. After giving you a second chance at survival, this is the payment I receive in return? I don't know what Ulm has promised you. I don't know how you intend to escape from Ulm's suffocating grasp when I am gone, or perhaps Ulm has agreed that they would destroy you last? But it doesn't matter. I gave you a chance for peace. I went out of my way to try to establish friendly relations with you. But you were never a friend; you only wanted a few turns to rebuild so you could drag both of our empires into the abyss.

What do you hope to gain, Caelum? Territory? Do you think I can't defend against you because I'm off fighting Ulm? Do you think that because I spared you the first time, I would spare you again?

You are wrong, Caelum, utterly wrong. I declare unending holy crusade against you, Caelum. All the forces of heaven itself hereby declare war on you. Your people may have been created in the images of angels, but they have fallen further than the lowliest markata; they are more contemptible than the basest bakemono. Marignon's days may be numbered, but we still have strength enough to fight you. From my demise you shall win nothing.

To Ulm, I apologise that I will not have the chance to spill much more of your blood. You deserved a better fight. Thank you for that golem, though! Trading a grand master and a couple of pearls for all those goodies was well worth it.

To the uncivilised nations of the south, may you settle your disputes as quickly as you can, lest Ulm come to dominate the world.

[ComTrav]

You know, Marignon, I don't think it was you that gave Caelum a second chance of survival; if I had just sat on the border after ridding Primea of the Scourge of the Vans, I somehow doubt you would've offered Caelum peace out of the goodness of your heart.

I was excited about the golem at first, but in retrospect maybe not my best option for raiding an astral power.

As soon as this war is over and I have plenty of Pearls to spare I'm dispelling Shinuyama's global. It doesn't impact me much, but for the good of Primea, it needs to be done. It's frustrating our trading partners in the south, and irritating basically everyone.

[Shigure]

ComTrav said:
You know, Marignon, I don't think it was you that gave Caelum a second chance of survival; if I had just sat on the border after ridding Primea of the Scourge of the Vans, I somehow doubt you would've offered Caelum peace out of the goodness of your heart.

You're absolutely right, of course. Though in retrospect, I shouldn't have offered them a truce at all.

In any case, I don't know what they expect to gain from Round Two. Sure, you saved them in a way, but now they'll be trapped as an enclave of Greater Ulm. What are they going to do, wait for an opportune moment to backstab you?

I was excited about the golem at first, but in retrospect maybe not my best option for raiding an astral power.

I must have stared at that golem and went flipping through the manual for maybe thirty minutes before hitting on that solution.

[Holy_bricklayer]

Shigure said:
Oh, Caelum, you fools. After giving you a second chance at survival, this is the payment I receive in return? I don't know what Ulm has promised you. I don't know how you intend to escape from Ulm's suffocating grasp when I am gone, or perhaps Ulm has agreed that they would destroy you last? But it doesn't matter. I gave you a chance for peace. I went out of my way to try to establish friendly relations with you. But you were never a friend; you only wanted a few turns to rebuild so you could drag both of our empires into the abyss.

You're Barbarian nation has definitely no idea of diplomacy. You erased you're first neighbor without any dialog, then you attack me in the same way, and now that Ulm is attacking you i'am supposed to consider you as an ally ?

Go on distract me you're heretic.

What's fun is that you were hoping me to attack Ulm, so you'll probably ask him then for a non aggression pact, as you did to me. Thinking that an entire nation can be bought with a couple of gold coin, how arrogant !

Caelum is a nation which has true words, and as i said to you, we were agreed for stopping the war for the next few month.

Concerning the future, just think of yours.

[kasnavada]

I'm happy. See the graph for details...

[Shigure]

Holy_bricklayer said:
You're Barbarian nation has definitely no idea of diplomacy. You erased you're first neighbor without any dialog, then you attack me in the same way, and now that Ulm is attacking you i'am supposed to consider you as an ally ?

... what? Eriu attacked me. And then you attacked me. I never wanted either war. I did not start either war. In both cases I was invaded the very turn after our borders touched. What dialog were you expecting? Neither of you said anything.

As for considering me an ally, no, you shouldn't do that. (In a game where only one can win, how could you?) But I would have been a useful tool for escaping from the dead end you will soon find yourself in.

Go on distract me you're heretic.

What's fun is that you were hoping me to attack Ulm, so you'll probably ask him then for a non aggression pact, as you did to me.

I wouldn't have done that, and even if I had, Ulm wouldn't have given it. If Ulm wanted peace with Marignon and war with Caelum, they could have had it from the beginning by attacking you.

Thinking that an entire nation can be bought with a couple of gold coin, how arrogant !

Arrogant? Alas, you have me there. (Also, to be fair, it was more than just a couple of gold coins!)

Caelum is a nation which has true words, and as i said to you, we were agreed for stopping the war for the next few month.

Indeed, you have broken no agreement. Let it not be said otherwise.

Concerning the future, just think of yours.

I already know I have none. And now neither do you.

(By the way, don't take any of this personally, and don't take any of it seriously. I'm actually having a grand time. )