Official statement of cheating on PBW.

[ZeroAdunn]

Wow, this thread is quickly degenerating into a hate thread, and not just of cheaters. Atrocities, man, you managed to insult and offend way more people than I think you intended.

And Hadrian, your comments really made you look like a powerhungry egotistical jerk. No offense, I don't mean that you are.

My point is that, yes cheating is a problem, and it is wrong, but how many of you can say you never cheated? I think you should all watch what you say regarding cheaters, you throw out words that catagorize and profile cheaters, which is stupid and wrong. I hope this thread dies, its sad to see such highly regarded members of the community lowering to this level.

[geoschmo]

I think every reasonable person would agree that cheating is wrong and should not be tolerated. The point of this thread was not to be a place for "I hate cheaters" rants. My intention was to steer people away from that kind of negative talk that always springs up whenever someone is caught cheating. I wanted to set the record straight instead of letting the rumor mill go wild, and to reassure people steps are being taken to prevent it in the future.

I was trying to point out that while there are cheaters that will break the rules, there are also players that just play very aggresive but completely within the rules. Sometimes these players will be labled as cheaters simply because they do well in their games. I hope everyone is smart enough to not fall into that kind of thinking.

If you have something to say, let's keep it civil.

Geoschmo

[Growltigga]

this may be a stupid question but do the cheat codes referred to in the SEIVG manual work on PBW?

my tuppence on cheaters is this, you set out the ground rules for a PBW game, anyone breaks them deliberately by cheating, kick them out of the game and slot in AI to replace them.

End of story, no need to debate

[Bman]

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Originally posted by Growltigga:
this may be a stupid question but do the cheat codes referred to in the SEIVG manual work on PBW?

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Only if the game owner sets the cheat-code checkboxes when creating the game.

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my tuppence on cheaters is this, you set out the ground rules for a PBW game, anyone breaks them deliberately by cheating, kick them out of the game and slot in AI to replace them.

End of story, no need to debate

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The problem with this solution is that the cheating empire typically has an unfair advantage over the other empires. In this case, the cheater had insanely advanced technology. If you turn it over to the AI, then everyone will then abuse AI flaws in order to acquire the techs from the AI, giving them the advantage. The only way to keep the game going is to destroy the cheating empire, removing all traces of its existance from the galaxy

[Growltigga]

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Originally posted by Bman:
The only way to keep the game going is to destroy the cheating empire, removing all traces of its existance from the galaxy

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Bman, I agree this is what is needed if you want to set a level playing field

I think the way round this is for Geo to step into the game, take over the cheaters' empire, and try the Tesco Samoa roleplay whereby the whole empire disappears off to another galaxy

Removes the problem, is a bit of fun, and lets Geo practice his amateur dramatics

[Grayhorse]

Um,

I maybe stupid in my thinking, but doesnt PBW have checks and balances set to detect the cheats? When I was reading there faqs, i thought I read that.

[geoschmo]

PBW itself doesn't, but SEIV does. In this specific case the person devised a way to circumvent those.

Geoschmo