Official statement of cheating on PBW.

Growltigga · #1 April 8th, 2002, 03:08 PM

this may be a stupid question but do the cheat codes referred to in the SEIVG manual work on PBW?

my tuppence on cheaters is this, you set out the ground rules for a PBW game, anyone breaks them deliberately by cheating, kick them out of the game and slot in AI to replace them.

End of story, no need to debate

Bman · #2 April 8th, 2002, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by Growltigga:
this may be a stupid question but do the cheat codes referred to in the SEIVG manual work on PBW?

Only if the game owner sets the cheat-code checkboxes when creating the game.

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my tuppence on cheaters is this, you set out the ground rules for a PBW game, anyone breaks them deliberately by cheating, kick them out of the game and slot in AI to replace them.

End of story, no need to debate

The problem with this solution is that the cheating empire typically has an unfair advantage over the other empires. In this case, the cheater had insanely advanced technology. If you turn it over to the AI, then everyone will then abuse AI flaws in order to acquire the techs from the AI, giving them the advantage. The only way to keep the game going is to destroy the cheating empire, removing all traces of its existance from the galaxy

Growltigga · #3 April 8th, 2002, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Bman:
The only way to keep the game going is to destroy the cheating empire, removing all traces of its existance from the galaxy

Bman, I agree this is what is needed if you want to set a level playing field

I think the way round this is for Geo to step into the game, take over the cheaters' empire, and try the Tesco Samoa roleplay whereby the whole empire disappears off to another galaxy

Removes the problem, is a bit of fun, and lets Geo practice his amateur dramatics

Grayhorse · #4 April 8th, 2002, 07:07 PM

Um,

I maybe stupid in my thinking, but doesnt PBW have checks and balances set to detect the cheats? When I was reading there faqs, i thought I read that.

geoschmo · #5 April 8th, 2002, 07:33 PM

PBW itself doesn't, but SEIV does. In this specific case the person devised a way to circumvent those.

Geoschmo

BoomStick · #6 April 8th, 2002, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
This is another reason to make a PBW subscription club. People who are serious about playing the game and who hate cheaters would more inclined to pay for a "special" area to play games out side of the public area. Subscription Members or whatever, often don't get nailed by cheaters.

PBW subscription might not get the number of players you'd like. Games might not fill up, or you'd be playing the same core group of gamers game after game...

Staying free makes sure that you get fodder like me in games you join. (I'm in Ay Chihuahua Numero Dos (Gold))

...though, I'm now a few turns into my first PBW game, and I'm willing to send a few dollars to the admins to keep the service going, since I like the way it plays...

Boomer

[ 08 April 2002: Damn typo! Message edited by: BoomStick ]

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Kling · #7 April 8th, 2002, 08:15 PM

Agreed that cheating must be handled swiftly, and with force. But I really do think some people could do with a more relaxed attitude! I feel perfectly confident that the PBW team, and Malfador, can handle this and any future issues. Nice to hear that you put this on priority.

It is also good that you tell people about what happened, it stop all sorts of nasty rumors.