quick question about research victories

[Amhazair]

That was indeed a game with research victory on. The only one I have seen organised on these boards in my time here, though of course I might have missed others.

[Ironhawk]

Research victory is a cool idea. Not as the sole victory condition for a game - that would be pretty stale. But combined with another condition it could be pretty cool. Like say you had Cumulative VPs + Research.

That way, one player could try to win by grabbing all the land/vps, while the other could try to win by research.

[capnq]

Ironhawk said: combined with another condition it could be pretty cool.

There can only be one...victory condition.

Dom3 only allows one victory condition per game. The only way to have multiple victory conditions is to leave graphs on so that everyone can see when someone achieves one of the alternatives.

[Ironhawk]

Ah, bummer

[lch]

capnq said:
The only way to have multiple victory conditions is to leave graphs on so that everyone can see when someone achieves one of the alternatives.

You don't need graphs on. The host could generate scores with the --scoredump option and look if the conditions have been met himself. All the victory conditions could be checked against: research, provinces, victory points, whatever else.

[Endoperez]

I think research victory might actually be meaningful for test games. How quickly can you research X paths of magic, and how many provinces you have conquered/searched for sites/castled by that turn. Because it would give a meaningful end to the test games, I'd actually complete them instead of abandoning if I decide I should have done something slightly differently.

What are examples of "enough research" in the early game for different nations, as an example. Level 3 in one (for third-level evocations, raise skeletons, whatever the Thaum astral spell is etc) and level 2 in two schools (site-searching, items, buffs, whatever)