Best item

[mathusalem]

why do you think frost brand is far better than fire one ?

[Falkor]

mathusalem said:
why do you think frost brand is far better than fire one ?

5W gems against 5E, 5F gems.

[mathusalem]

ah ok, obvious


thanks

[DonCorazon]

Dwarven Hammer / Skull Mentor

[triqui]

Falkor said:

5W gems against 5E, 5F gems.

Frost brand is slightly more cost-effective, but i still preffer firebrand. With a dwarven hammer the firebrand is cheap enough, it is AP damage, and *Can* kill skellies and other (really common in this game) undeads.

There are way more cold inmune units than fire inmune ones in the game.

[Falkor]

I fully agree with you Triqui about the effectiveness of brands. Strangely, I always have more water gems to spend than earth gems, not to speak about the fire ones.

[thejeff]

What do the brands actually do? From the description I'd assumed it was normal (or AP) damage to the unit actually hit, and then fire or cold affect to the whole area. I'd originally assumed this was a minor affect, like chance of catching on fire or freezing, but it's actually the main damage.

Is the cold/fire damage the same as the weapon damage? Strength based? That makes little sense to me, but seems to match actual results.

[Endoperez]

They use the weapon effects "small area fire", "small are frost" etc. I don't know how powerful those effects are.

[Jazzepi]

Endoperez said:
They use the weapon effects "small area fire", "small are frost" etc. I don't know how powerful those effects are.

My general impression has been that the AoE effect off of those weapons does somewhere in the range of 6-7 damage. Enough to kill a normal human solider, and therefore clear an a single square with three of them in it, with two attacks from the AoE weapon.

Jazzepi

[Edi]

14 ap fire and 12 ap cold respectively. So fire brand is clearly superior of the two. AP+AP damage, with the second AP being higher than the frost equivalent and less units that are immune to it.