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April 22nd, 2008, 12:10 PM
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Re: Temporary Sub
You also forget about big difference between attacking and defending. Also there are things like remote spells that can devastate every army. Also it would probably take around 10-20 turns for every player to move their armies to provinces neighbouring isle [and some gateway would have to be shared]. I don't think that whole thing would be possible to do in less than 20-30 turns total. And that would weaken Machaka, as they are not astral nation and they wouldn't be able to teleport additionally recruited troops in that time.
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April 22nd, 2008, 07:06 PM
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Re: Temporary Sub
I didn't check whether I was in the top 4 and it isn't of vast interest to me. From my point of view, I'm not doing much more in this game than filling in the numbers and the time until someone else wins it, and I suspect that's how everyone who isn't Mictlan, Machaka and Pythium feels. If I had to spend lots of time on my turns, I'd have long since let a sub take over permanently or gone AI.
I would propose remote spells not be used - purely battlefield fighting only. When the two nations fight their round, they both move into the central isle at the same time, thereby making the defender fairly random I think.And in terms of Machaka, last time I fought them they didn't have a shortage of astral mages Indy astral maybe, but astral nonetheless.
Alternatively, other neutral ground - in fact ground with the Dom of none of the participants would be ideal.
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April 24th, 2008, 04:50 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
So any conclusions? I got back, going to restaurant soon though. Exhausting trip
If anyone wants some photos PM me an e-mail.
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April 24th, 2008, 05:34 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
Whatever closes this game in the idiest fashion is fine with me. A few big battles in provinces where everyone can watch sounds pretty good.
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April 24th, 2008, 05:45 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
There are few problems with that:
1. Whoever gets in the province gets to defend. It may decide about everything.
2. How can you do the elimination? I can lost like 60% troops and win semi-final to face someone that lost for example 5%.
3. What about dominion in target province? Magic and temperature scales matter.
4. We didn't hear comments from Machaka and Marignon, 2 nations that would make top4.
5. There is still that issue of gathering national forces to fight. Is there any preparation allowed or just forces near the island or other solution.
6. All other players would need to stale during the fight so there are no accusations about anonymous spells.
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April 24th, 2008, 08:20 PM
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Re: Temporary Sub
From what I have seen, there are too many variables for a tournament to make sense. The only other options that I can see are to end the game now (1st: Mictlan; 2nd: Pythium; 3rd?: Machaka) or to keep playing.
I'm ready to end the game now, but I'll go with whatever the community decides.
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April 25th, 2008, 04:02 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
Victor by democratic vote is okay by me, although I'd like to suggest that those who want to be considered for this post their most recent .trn file in order that the merits of their position can be examined.
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April 28th, 2008, 08:04 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
He forget them at home is all.
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April 28th, 2008, 11:33 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
Well, this is my first time in the late game and I'm certainly learning the hard way.
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April 28th, 2008, 11:42 AM
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Re: Temporary Sub
Oh, what happened?  You have the most powerful race of MA, I see nothing really bad in stats  Your Seraph is still alive too.
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