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[Renojustin]

Zeldor said:
Renojustin:

Nah, that isn't so easy. I think eye shield has MR check, so to work it against good SC with MR above 20 he needs to hit you like 30-50 times to lose just one eye.

Eye shield ends up taking out the eyes of units with quite high MR with very good probability. And I didn't say to use it against an SC.

[Lingchih]

Eye shields take out eyes with great regularity. It really does not take much... hit a unit with an eye shield.. you lose an eye. Hit him again, you lose the other eye.

That is why SCs with an Eye Shield are so rarely targeted by other SCs. They don't want to go blind. It is an extremely nice fear tactic.

I know you may throw some game statistics at me, but just forge one, use it, and watch. The Eye Shield almost always causes eye loss when the unit bearing it is hit.

[Ironhawk]

Lingchih said:
That is why SCs with an Eye Shield are so rarely targeted by other SCs. They don't want to go blind. It is an extremely nice fear tactic.

Yeah this is definitely the case. In my last game I was faced with an enemy SC wielding an Eye Shield. I had a pair of strong SCs which could have defeated it, but I was unwilling to let them fight because I didnt dare risk that they would lose an eye.

However you can still counter it by just bringing the SC down with mages or a suicide thug of some kind.

[chrispedersen]

Armor of virtue + Carcator the pocket mage.
You teleport. Carcator stays.
When he dies.. he comes back to you.

[Zeldor]

I am absolutely sure that Eye Shield is not so great against SCs. You really need luck and it may take even 20-40 hits for other SC to lose just one eye. I had 1:1 fight, my Tartarian with Eye Shield against Arch Devil and he lost one eye after about 40 turns of battle.

[DonCorazon]

Z, you are destroying the fearsome mystique of the Eye Shield.

[Dedas]

Stop doing that Zeldor... I want to believe.

[Lingchih]

Zeldor said:
I am absolutely sure that Eye Shield is not so great against SCs. You really need luck and it may take even 20-40 hits for other SC to lose just one eye. I had 1:1 fight, my Tartarian with Eye Shield against Arch Devil and he lost one eye after about 40 turns of battle.

And I have given eye losss to an SC after the first hit. So who is right? Shall we fight about it? My eye shield wielding SC vs. your eye shield wielding SC?

[sum1lost]

I think that the attack has to miss into the exact range that the eyeshield improves defence by.

[Wick]

If there's no MR check then any (non-spider etc.) attacker would be blind on the second round. That's easy to check if you're worried about it.