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Old April 27th, 2008, 04:09 AM
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>> "Seraph" is just a convenient label for an entity of a particular power level.
>No, it isn't! A seraph is an angel of the highest rank in christian religion (exists in jewish too, but it's not the highest rank there). Christian religion has very clear rules for 'good'. They are known as 10 commandments.

To my knowledge the ten commandments are not the christian definition of good. Jesus abolishes the law and says that you shall love the next. (Not sure of the english wording here). Thus honoring the sabbat is not part of the definition of good in christianity. Not doing what you don't want others to do to you is.

Actually christianity have less clear rules on good and evil than most religions, at least as presented by Jesus. Jesus places higher moral responsibility on the christians then most religious founders do. It is you who shall know what is wrong, and be judged. The old testament might guide you, but it is your thoughts and intentions that are judged. That is a very hard position, especially since very few have the moral fibre of Jesus. Fortunately Christianity allows forgiveness for all those who are unable to cope with this vast responsibility.

Oops. Sorry. Got carried away

Thus both the seraph and the Vastness are not good, by the standard humans should treat each other. Seraphs do kill and maim the unfaithful, quite in opposition of what Jesus said. Vastnesses shatters minds or whatever, probably rather indiscriminately.

>> "Good" is the label for your worshippers; "evil" is everybody who opposes you. History is written by the winners.
>That's just anarchism, nothing more.

It's not anarchism. Its history (the meaning of the term when applied to the study of history), sociology, or otherwise scientific (as in not value laden) perspective. Although the assessment 'history is written by the winner' is perhaps no longer a neutral sentence, but an expression of scienticism (not sure if this word actually exists ).

Hmm, lost focus there. My point is that it is the general perspective of most scientific studies that 'we' define 'us' as 'good', while 'they' are defined as 'evil'. If 'we' wrote history 'they' were evil.

Most religions have similar views on what is good and what is not (not kill, not steal, not have sex outside strict social structures, and other stuff that causes disturbances in society) but still they define each other as evil.

Hmm, I did not intend to go into religion and theology. Hope you don't mind.
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