Water queens may be way overpowered.

Twan · #1 April 27th, 2008, 02:05 PM

Water queens aren't supposed to regen out of water and IIRC don't (except perhaps the queen of the lakes).

Tuidjy · #2 April 27th, 2008, 02:46 PM

Oh, come on. They are two slots short when on land, and not particularly harder
to kill than any other good SC. Not with a squad tailored for that purpose.

As for killing it with a SC... I my current game I have a SC that would eat her
alive in two rounds. And that guy is a horrible _mistake_ that I inherited from
from my uncle.

And only one Water Queen do regenerates out of water. The other two drown.
If you give them an amulet of the fish, the air around them turns to water,
so they are still surrounded by water.

Jazzepi · #3 April 27th, 2008, 02:51 PM

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Tuidjy said:
Oh, come on. They are two slots short when on land, and not particularly harder
to kill than any other good SC. Not with a squad tailored for that purpose.

As for killing it with a SC... I my current game I have a SC that would eat her
alive in two rounds. And that guy is a horrible _mistake_ that I inherited from
from my uncle.

And only one Water Queen do regenerates out of water. The other two drown.
If you give them an amulet of the fish, the air around them turns to water,
so they are still surrounded by water.

IMHO the water queens are the worst of all the elemental royalty. You have to waste a slot just to get on land, and the spells you get access to with W4 or whatever they have are unimpressive.

They're great underwater though.

Jazzepi

Argitoth · #4 April 27th, 2008, 03:04 PM

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Jazzepi said:IMHO the water queens are the worst of all the elemental royalty. You have to waste a slot just to get on land, and the spells you get access to with W4 or whatever they have are unimpressive.

Lets focus on queen of the lakes then. Fire royalty pretty much suck as far as I've seen. In the game I'm in now, they just keep dieing. I don't think anyone has summoned them after the last time they died. Earth elementals can't compete one on one with the queen of the lakes since she has soooo much defence and sooo much regeneration OUT of the water.

I would expect the earth kings to be more powerful than queen of the lakes out of water.

WHY did the water queen not go over 190 fatigue? Someone please explain this.

Foodstamp · #5 April 27th, 2008, 03:13 PM

Holy crap lets take her out of the game!

Jazzepi · #6 April 27th, 2008, 03:43 PM

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Argitoth said:

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Jazzepi said:IMHO the water queens are the worst of all the elemental royalty. You have to waste a slot just to get on land, and the spells you get access to with W4 or whatever they have are unimpressive.

Lets focus on queen of the lakes then. Fire royalty pretty much suck as far as I've seen. In the game I'm in now, they just keep dieing. I don't think anyone has summoned them after the last time they died. Earth elementals can't compete one on one with the queen of the lakes since she has soooo much defence and sooo much regeneration OUT of the water.

I would expect the earth kings to be more powerful than queen of the lakes out of water.

WHY did the water queen not go over 190 fatigue? Someone please explain this.

High defense is one of the worst traits and SC can focus on. All you have to do is give an attack multiple attacks to take her down. Chaff + a middling SC could take down a 31 defense SC. Each attack beyond the first reduces defense by 2.

Boots of quickness, swords of quickness, and something like a stone bird destroy a unit's defense.

Jazzepi

Argitoth · #7 April 27th, 2008, 03:54 PM

Why did the water queen not go over 190 fatigue?

ologm · #8 April 27th, 2008, 04:28 PM

Fatigue is capped at 200. Any fatigue above 200 gets converted into damage.

lch · #9 April 27th, 2008, 04:28 PM

The maximum fatigue that a unit can get is 200. Don't take this as offense, but you should really, really read your manual. From start to finish. All the questions that you asked lately could be answered by just looking in the manual.

Fire Kings are the worst elemental royalty - yes. The other stuff is without grounds and the usual fuss. I feel tempted to set up a test game where 1000 Markata win against a Water Queen, thus proving that Water Queens can NEVAR win a game.

sum1lost · #10 April 27th, 2008, 03:16 PM

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Jazzepi said:

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Tuidjy said:
Oh, come on. They are two slots short when on land, and not particularly harder
to kill than any other good SC. Not with a squad tailored for that purpose.

As for killing it with a SC... I my current game I have a SC that would eat her
alive in two rounds. And that guy is a horrible _mistake_ that I inherited from
from my uncle.

And only one Water Queen do regenerates out of water. The other two drown.
If you give them an amulet of the fish, the air around them turns to water,
so they are still surrounded by water.

IMHO the water queens are the worst of all the elemental royalty. You have to waste a slot just to get on land, and the spells you get access to with W4 or whatever they have are unimpressive.

They're great underwater though.

Jazzepi

I personally think that quicken self and breath of winter are fantastic personal buff spells.