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It very much depends on what you define as aim range, which is not specified there and therefore does not interest me.

BTW I see, the edition is from 1965... I wonder if it is possible, that during about 10 years between first model of B-10 and the edition of the manual there was some modernization of sight. It looks quite different than more primitive equipment of SPG-82. What I suggest is, that 1000 meters were used with early models from middle fifties and 1400 meters applies to newer ones of middle sixties. But that is only hypothesis

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Old May 7th, 2008, 10:32 AM
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It very much depends on what you define as aim range, which is not specified there and therefore does not interest me.

BTW I see, the edition is from 1965... I wonder if it is possible, that during about 10 years between first model of B-10 and the edition of the manual there was some modernization of sight. It looks quite different than more primitive equipment of SPG-82. What I suggest is, that 1000 meters were used with early models from middle fifties and 1400 meters applies to newer ones of middle sixties. But that is only hypothesis

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There are no data about that that B-10 or B-11 were modernised sometime. There is a table of shooting of these tools, the crew conducts shooting under these tables. The distance of 1400 metres - HEAT will overcome a shell approximately for 5 seconds.
The distance of 450 metres - speaks only about that that this distance of a direct shot for which it is not necessary to regulate a sight.
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I have some organization questions.
What was the structure of a soviet border guard company in the 1970-1990 timeframe?
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Same as well as at mech. infantry on BTRs.
Links on proofs at me is not present. Believe it the truth.
It is important to divide frontier guards into special maneuverable group of fast reaction and the usual frontier guards who were on duty on border. The arms of frontier guards were sometimes much better than at usual armies in the heart of the country.

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