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May 8th, 2008, 06:25 PM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
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"PoD is imo the most powerful all around by quite a margin."
just do not attack an s nation, as solar rays is evoc 2, and will kill the pod rather quickly.
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Or dust to dust from a death nation.
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May 8th, 2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
Or maggots...
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May 8th, 2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
I'd rate as the top pretenders:
* Gorgon
* Prince of Death
* Cylops
* Agarthan Oracle
* Wyrm
* Oracle
* Kraken
* Colossal Fetish
* Water blessers (mother of rivers, father of winters, lady of springs)
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May 8th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
Master Lich is good in a big game. It cannot be targeted. He is not big, or flying. He has a zero encumbrance when casting, and has 3 misc slots.
Though he cannot fight like the Lich, or ctis immortal lizard lich, he starts with 3 dominion, rather than 2, and magic paths are 20 instead of 40.
And he is better against an attack than a combat sc, assuming the attack is backed with many mages. As my pretender in perpetuality for ma ctis, he was devastating with banefire/shadow blast. Since he has low hps, i always take air magic for air shield and eventually a shield of valor(seeking arrow).
In Eh II i started him with 5s and 5d, and a couple other paths. With 5 s and immortal, he can magic duel enemy s mages without fear. And with 3 slots, he can wish without the need for empowerment. In fact with robe magi he can reach s 10 without empowerment, and be quite potent with master enslave
without the need for a communion.
instead of using a wish for magical power, the ML really benefits from a wish for power to give him durability.
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May 8th, 2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
I'm partial to:
Cyclops - good ol' faithful
Natty - too bad she's not available to more nations
Great Enchantress - rainbow mage for magic-weak nations, plus bonus pearls
VQ - undead pretenders are too vulnerable without immortality
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May 9th, 2008, 01:14 AM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
Hmm, I'm glad everyone has given such interesting responses. But one thing mystifies me: what is a Natty?
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May 9th, 2008, 02:14 AM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
Nataraja, most likely.
Out of the human-ish rainbows, Great Enchantress is clearly the best. The others' abilities just don't compare with 1 free pearl per turn.
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May 19th, 2008, 10:47 PM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
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quantum_mechani said:
I'd rate as the top pretenders:
* Gorgon
* Prince of Death
* Cylops
* Agarthan Oracle
* Wyrm
* Oracle
* Kraken
* Colossal Fetish
* Water blessers (mother of rivers, father of winters, lady of springs)
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Is this is order from most to least powerful? And what is the Colossal Fetish? Is it the same as the Colossal Head that EA Mictlan gets?
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May 20th, 2008, 02:31 AM
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Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders?
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moderation said:
Quote:
quantum_mechani said:
I'd rate as the top pretenders:
* Gorgon
* Prince of Death
* Cylops
* Agarthan Oracle
* Wyrm
* Oracle
* Kraken
* Colossal Fetish
* Water blessers (mother of rivers, father of winters, lady of springs)
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Is this is order from most to least powerful? And what is the Colossal Fetish? Is it the same as the Colossal Head that EA Mictlan gets?
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Roughly from best to least, but between some pretenders being national only, and some not being primarily for combat, it's tough to compare. I do think it would be very rare I'd pick something besides those in the base game though. The fetish is a Mackaka only pretender.
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