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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 Cyclop, wyrm, kraken, great enchanteress, gorgon and all immortal pretenders are among the most powerful.
 Immobile pretender seem somewhat above the norm due to the high starting dominion and low cost, but they don't move.
 
 Basically, any pretender that can be used out of the box with no or little equipment as an SC, or that can provide you an advantage in mid and late game via immortality or large amount of magic diversity is powerful. Other are rather useless by themselves (even if they may be useful for a powerful bless effect).
 
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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 Lets see, for total usefulness I prefer any rainbows but especially the ones on mounts or flying.
 For bless i tend to use the Lord of the Forests a lot. I love the Nature 4-6 and Earth 9 bless in general, especially EA.
 
 For theme my favorite is divine emperor and the Allfather.
 
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		| Endoperez said: Nataraja, most likely.
 
 
 Out of the human-ish rainbows, Great Enchantress is clearly the best. The others' abilities just don't compare with 1 free pearl per turn.
 
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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 Prince of Death or Cyclops. For reference, see the current Team Game. All of the experienced players have either a PoD or a Clops.
 I would love to have the Dragons be better SC pretenders. I personally love to take a Dragon, but there always seem to be better choices available.
 
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		| chrispedersen said: ????
 
 What about man's arch druid - 2 nat gems a month at 35 cost..
 
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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 He's available to the Tuatha, Eriu and Man. So a restricted pretender, hence not as all around powerful as the enchantress which is available for all nations. The enchantress also has one more item slot that can be used to wear a booster. Mounted units do not have foot slots for items. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 Just curious, what makes the prince of death so good? Although the stat line looks not that bad, 45 HP seems a bit low to me. And unlike the Gorgon, the PoD doesn't seem to have any uber skills for the lack of hit points. Also no incuperation to protect against afflictions which can happen very fast with low HP. The only really special thing he has besides flying is his abnormal high fear value of 13. However, I'm not sure how good it works out against indies. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 It works great. You get additional fear from more death magic level and  you get get awe from dom9/10. With items you can easily get fear over 20. Though single wyrm will win 1:1. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Who are the most powerful pretenders? 
 The fear effect and that he is inmune to lost of afflictions, not because he does not receive tyhem but because they do not bother him. Limp? Don't mind, morale loss? don't care, cripled or weaknes, ... so he will stack lots of heart but will not bother him at all and with death 4-6 his fear scales a lot and after 2-4 hits indies run.
 Of course, be carefull with heavy cavalry and such but otherwise you can nearly attack blindly turn 0.
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		| Karlem said: he is inmune to lost of afflictions, not because he does not receive tyhem but because they do not bother him. Limp? Don't mind, morale loss? don't care, cripled or weaknes, ... so he will stack lots of heart but will not bother him at all
 
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