.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $5.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old April 22nd, 2002, 06:42 AM

Taz-in-Space Taz-in-Space is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 722
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Taz-in-Space is on a distinguished road
Default Taz not find Scenario Editor! Taz need help!!!

Now that I've tried the map editor packed with my
SEIV Gold, I thought I'd try my hand at making a
scenario. But lo and behold NO SCENARIO EDITOR!

So how did those scenarios get made?

Please Oh please can someone point the way?
__________________
Gaze upon Taz-in-Space and TREMBLE!

<img src=http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/other/MM/SE4/warning_labels/inuse/taz.jpg alt= - /]
WARNING: Always count fingers after feeding the Tazmanian Devil!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old April 22nd, 2002, 12:38 PM
dogscoff's Avatar

dogscoff dogscoff is offline
General
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 4,245
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
dogscoff is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taz not find Scenario Editor! Taz need help!!!

It is possible to make scenarios:

1- create your map. Most people prefer to edit a generated map than build one from scratch.

2- Decide what empires you want in the game. You may need to add extra "uber- empires". More on them later.

3- start the game with all players under human control.

4- Play the game, guiding each empire towards the situation you want it to start in (your scenario start point). Research any necessary techs, develop any necessary colonies, make any necessary diplomatic relationships, build any necessary ships.

Remember, you can expand each empire as much as you like if it helps you to reach your scenario start point more quickly, because you can always shrink it again afterwards if you want to: You can abandon planets, scrap ships/ facilities, close and re-open warp points (to get rid of diplomatic contacts), but the only thing that can't be undone is research: Once an empire has knowledge of a tech, it will always have that knowledge, so if a race is supposed to start the scenario with basic tech, you must make sure it never gets any knowledge above that level.

5- Number 4 is a long process, but it can be sped up by using the game's cheat codes or by having the different races work together (sharing research, gifting items and resources back and forth.) Uber- empires can also speed things up.

6- You might also need to create an "uber- empire" or two:

An uber- empire can be used to shape your scenario: It can do any necessary stellar manipulation work, colonise out any unwanted ruins, build any super-ships or super-colonies to be gifted to lower tech races, and leave minefields and rogue / derelict ships lying around. You can't usually have a normal race do these things because (A) it would take them ages to research the necessary techs and (B) once they have those techs, they can't get rid of them, and you might want them low-tech at your scenario start point.

To create an uber- empire, mod the game files before game start so that there is a racial tech tree with massive research, supply and construction bonuses. Create a race with this tech tree. You might also want to give it the same shipset as one of the other races, so that any gifted ships will look "native".

To create a derelict ship, just have another empire take out the derelict's enigines in tactical mode, using an engine destroying weapon. Make sure the derelict doesn't have a functioanl repair component.

When you're finished with your uber- empire (ie just before your scenario's start point), scrap/ gift all of it's unwanted ships and abandon/ gift all planets. Eliminate any unwanted uber-population on other planets by loading them into transports and hitting "eject cargo".

The uber- empire will effectively cease to exist. Ships and units will continue to function but (as long as it has no colonising or ship capture capabilities on it's rogue ships) it will never be able to have any colonies and therefore will be unable to make diplomatic contact with anyone.

7- when you have everything in the right place, run a few non-event turns to clear the message log, then send out any diplomatic Messages to explain the scenario to the human player(s).

8- Put any AI players under AI control.
Hit "end turn", "save" and distribute the savegame file as a scenario.

Easy huh? There are plenty more hints and tricks, but that's the basics of it.

[ 22 April 2002: Message edited by: dogscoff ]

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old April 22nd, 2002, 03:45 PM
Suicide Junkie's Avatar
Suicide Junkie Suicide Junkie is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Waterloo, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 11,451
Thanks: 1
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
Suicide Junkie is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taz not find Scenario Editor! Taz need help!!!

If you want to get fancy, look at the tutorial scenario, and make your own Version of those files.
The specialized scenario files only work when the scenario is loaded from the scenario button, not the load game button, so it will only work well for singleplayer or hotseat games that are played using sequential turns.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old April 22nd, 2002, 09:23 PM

Tabs Tabs is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Madison WI USA
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Tabs is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taz not find Scenario Editor! Taz need help!!!

Thanks for the info, and thanks to Taz for asking in the first place! This is great stuff, and any more ideas would be appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old April 23rd, 2002, 06:14 AM

Taz-in-Space Taz-in-Space is offline
First Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: SE Pennsylvania
Posts: 722
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Taz-in-Space is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Taz not find Scenario Editor! Taz need help!!!

Thanks to everybody for this info. Old Taz will now try this out!
__________________
Gaze upon Taz-in-Space and TREMBLE!

<img src=http://imagemodserver.mine.nu/other/MM/SE4/warning_labels/inuse/taz.jpg alt= - /]
WARNING: Always count fingers after feeding the Tazmanian Devil!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:38 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.