AI concerns

dogscoff · #1 April 22nd, 2002, 04:21 PM

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Large quadrant

If you cram too many AIs into a small map it makes for a lesser challenge rather than a more difficult game (which doesn't at first seem very logical.) If you want to use a smaller map, use less AIs.

Thing is, most AIs like a few empty systems around them to develop into before they flick into "war" mode. Trust me, give them some space and you will notice an improvement. Once they start to develop they can be really powerful, and of course utterly relentless.

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(Not ancient. Maybe spiral arm)

This is just to the amount of black hole, nebula and dead systems which can really cripple an AI.

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all warp points connected,

AIs can handle being isolated, but not as well as a human can. Their research and production is better spent on weapons=-)

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warp points anywhere in system.

Helps with AI navigation / resupply moronities.

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geoschmo · #2 April 22nd, 2002, 04:42 PM

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Originally posted by Growltigga:
Oh no, this is factually incorrect and I do beg to differ - have you seen me play?

No G, I stand by my statement, even in your case.

The thing about the AI is even a well designed and challanging AI follows a script of predetermined actions and reactions. Once you become accustomed to that you can plan accordingly and defeat them every time.

A bad human player however is likely to pull many "bonehead" manuvers during the course of a game which appear aillogical, but still have to be accounted for.

Geo

pathfinder · #3 April 22nd, 2002, 04:49 PM

ow, oh, ow..darn dogscoff

: Neofit: I tried the dogged one's suggestion and promptly got my arse handed to me by the Vikings. about 20-30 turns in (high bonuses, etc for the AI) I barely have APB-1 and destroyers and the Vicking meet me, 2 turns later their destroyers are glassing my small planets and the cruisers are *gasp* landing troops and taking over my planets...

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Growltigga · #4 April 22nd, 2002, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
A bad human player however is likely to pull many "bonehead" manuvers during the course of a game

Ahhaahh, you HAVE seen the Growltigga tactical gameplan then?

Cyrien · #5 April 22nd, 2002, 05:44 PM

In my current single player TDM game with high (or was it medium) AI bonus is going well. In fact I am only secoond place. keep in mind I have 4 conquered races in my federation each of which breathes a different atmosphere. Additionally the ONLY reason I am still alive as the second strongest empire is that I decided to leave tactical combat on for this game and there seem to be an abundance of nebula, asteroid, and black hole systems on my border. If not for these the much superior Jraenor would overwhelm me. They have about half of the Universe under their power and the other half is united with me against them, for the most part they have even stopped fighting each other. If things keep up like this I might actually see an AI get MEE for the first time. Has anyone else ever seen this happen?

PS: I have no idea how far ahead of me the AI #1 is. But I am exponentially stronger than anyone else and from the short time I had a trade treaty with this guy so was he with about a two times greater than me margin.

PPS: I recently used intel to subvert some of his ships. One of them was in a massively scary fleet that happily was on the far end of the universe from me.

PPPS: Note that I am handicapping myself in a few ways. No mines or satellites for static WP defense for instance. Though if things keep up I may change that. Specially since in that fleet of his he had PD and Mine sweeper ships along with carriers and mixed weaponry on mixed hulls. Compliments to whoever altered the TDM races.

neofit · #6 April 22nd, 2002, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by pathfinder:
ow, oh, ow..darn dogscoff : Neofit: I tried the dogged one's suggestion and promptly got my arse handed to me by the Vikings. about 20-30 turns in (high bonuses, etc for the AI) I barely have APB-1 and destroyers and the Vicking meet me, 2 turns later their destroyers are glassing my small planets and the cruisers are *gasp* landing troops and taking over my planets...

Oh, so they get such bonuses in research as to have all these technologies around turn 30? Or they start the game already knowing these techonolgies?

I guess I'll try without bonuses first.

neofit · #7 April 22nd, 2002, 06:56 PM

Where can I get the Shadows Patch please? It's not on the Gold CD, and a search on this board gave three threads with no urls..