Ascendant - Game On!

[Zenzei]

The gold and tactical win were both easily on our side.

Okay Sauro, now you provoked Caelum into really digging up the battle data.
Caelum lost:
28x iron crow(15 gold): 420 gold
51x spirehorn warrior/archer(10 gold): 510 gold
->79 units in total, costing 930 gold

Sauromatia lost:
4x warrior sorceress(160 gold, these are lot cheaper than I thought!): 640 gold
enarie: 150 gold
indy priest: 40 gold
2x soothsayer (60 gold): 120 gold
ichtyid lord: 40 gold
26x amazon warrior/androphag archer/sauromatian archer (10-13 gold): 260 gold
->26 units and 9 commanders in total, costing 1250 gold

In addition Sauromatia had 52 gems invested in this battle(in form of summons, thistle mace & gems on commanders) while Caelum spent 2 air gems.

Still feeling Caelum was the nation paying the price in said battle?

[Renojustin]

These items and summons still exist. If you want to price the value of the fight in gold, I'd be happy to.

1250g = 25% of my turn's income,
vs
930g = 70% of your turns' income

So, keep em coming! T'ien Ch'i is eyeing your properties now that it is finishing up with Ulm.

[Wrana]

Yes, just as I said. Having more territory, Sauromatian empire can safely invest more into each fight than any one other country. Taken together, though...
As for Tien Chi 'finishing' Ulm, it isn't quite as close as some may think.. In any case, Tien Chi will probably HAVE to attack Sauromatia soon, though Sauromatia doesn't have to attack Tien Chi - it can win without fighting them at all! Though it may require some surprise attack on those Giboleths who think they are so unbeatable... or just Dominion-killing them.
To Abysia:
Unfortunately, your winning in diplomacy becomes meaningless as soon as you are crushed with brute force. That's one of reasons I said that attacking before alliance was formed was probably your mistake - Tien Chi, for example, formed an alliance before attacking me...

[Zenzei]

These items and summons still exist.

So your prophet managed to pick up the mace after the fight, that's unfortunate. If we go this way and deduct the gem value of your still alive summons(11/17*25gems=16gems) and thistle mace(10 gems) from the cost of getting them, you lost 26 gems, which is significantly less than 52 but still a lot for a single battle I think.

1250g = 25% of my turn's income,
vs
930g = 70% of your turns' income

This is a fair point actually but relative amounts are just, well, relative. As long as the price of rebuilding those 79 units doesn't prevent me from recruiting mages, it doesn't matter how big of a percentage of my one turn income they represent and in this particular case it doesn't prevent mage recruitment.

Oh, I will come for you Sauromatia! It sounds like you are the defender already in our war.

Tien Chi is a bit of a black horse as they have been quite silent in this game(at least towards Caelum). It'll be interesting to see what is their course of action. Attacking Caelum instead of Sauromatia would be rather unwise though if Tien plans to win this game.

[secretperson]

T'ien Ch'i would be very wise to attack Sauromatia while his forces are split on 4-5 fronts.

[Wrana]

He will probably wait for some time, though - he seems to me a methodical person.

[secretperson]

Wrana said:
He will probably wait for some time, though - he seems to me a methodical person.

Seems to me that's just pure foolishness. He can wait in which time Sauromatia will be even stronger after having wiped out his other opposition, or he can strike now or really soon and face a more spread out Sauromatia. Then again, if he waits chances are Sauromatia will simply will by having enough capitals. lol.

[Darkwind]

Yoth'Shothogg does not believe T'ien Ch'i will attack Sauromatia. She has been kind enough to provide a list of reasons why she believes so.

-T'ien Ch'i has not, to R'lyeh's knowledge, accepted or even replied to any offer to attack Sauromatia
-T'ien Ch'i has not, to R'lyeh's knowledge, replied to any messages sent to it, at least by R'lyeh
-T'ien Ch'i has done nothing so far against Sauromatia, and may even be helping Sauromatia