Killing blessed giants

[Valandil]

Alternatively, avoid them. Cloud Trapeze/Flying Raksharajas can probably take giant PD, seducers can grab undefended provinces with skelspam, and eventually kill even jarls with disintegrate. Use overwhelming force of mages to kill one army at a time, while raiding like crazy.

Honestly, After turn 35 or so, standards of the damned, drain life spells, hellbind hearts, disintegrates, and even life for a life, should mean that you can weather a pure giant army. 'Course, your opponent is reasearching too.

N9 W9 Palankashas work pretty well, too.

Caveat: I can't play this game. At all.

[WraithLord]

Different nations have different counters to blessed giants. To name a few:
1. Undead spamming. Ermor, Ctis and other nations with strong access to death magic can field squads of skelli spammers. The skellies can serve both as meat shield and to fatigue the giants.
Once the giants are busy with the undead spam move to killer spells. Drain life for example or if access to other schools then frozen heart, incinerate to name a few.

2. Entangle, vine arrows, entangle, vine bows, bonds of fire, false fetters etc. Stop giants, lower defense, move melee troops for the kill.

3. Create your own SCs. Bane lords, Wraith lords, Angels, Troll king, Elemental royalty etc.

4. Astral, Blood and Nature allows for enslave mind, charm and the equivalent blood spell to take control of the giants. Add communion and MR penetrate items for extra potency

5. Avoid them. Use raiding tactics. Best results when access to sneaking troops/summons and/or flying troops/summons.

6. Never tried it but sounds fun. Horror mark the giants.

[LDiCesare]

I found out it depends a lot on the giants. Niefel giants fall easily to fire, so fire 9 bless T'ien Ch'i sacreds backed with Fire Demons can tear them down cost effectively. This doesn't work against fire resistant Hinnom and may not be that effectie against the Fomoré.
A death bless can also cripple giants as none of them has recuperation.
As Lanka, you should probably try to resort to thunderstrike and skeleton spam.

[Taqwus]

Hinnom gets recruit-anywhere healers. That said, a D9B9 blessing for a nation with cheap sacreds would still make you an annoying punk. :/

[AdmiralZhao]

The spell Iron Bane works well against giants. Once the giant's armor is weakened, they die quickly against swarming smaller units. Of course this weakens your own unit's armor as well, but it is not like they are going to survive a hit from a giant anyway. The best part about this spell is that it only requires an an E1 caster with Earth boots. So if you can find an independent with E1, and then trade for earth boots, you are set.

Darkness + undead/demons also works well, since your undead hordes will hit almost every time, while the giants will have pathetic attack values (and won't be able to lower your defense through multiple attacks against a single target).

For best results, combine these two tactics against an enormous army of sacred giants that Nieflheim has spent 30 turns building up.

[chrispedersen]

LDiCesare said:
I found out it depends a lot on the giants. Niefel giants fall easily to fire, so fire 9 bless T'ien Ch'i sacreds backed with Fire Demons can tear them down cost effectively. This doesn't work against fire resistant Hinnom and may not be that effectie against the Fomoré.
A death bless can also cripple giants as none of them has recuperation.
As Lanka, you should probably try to resort to thunderstrike and skeleton spam.

Hell no! Lanka should be able to get a F9W9N4 bless vs the giants X9N6. Under which 3Tigers take 2 giants.

And I like the River Demons as Tien Chi MUCH better than the fire ones.

[LDiCesare]

Lanka F9 will indeed work very well against almost everybody but I'm not sure against hinnom.
I like River demons a lot too, and a F9W9 bless on them is deadly indeed, but F9 is mostly wasted against Hinnom.

[MaxWilson]

Unless you have multiple attacks, the 6 AP bless from F9 is pretty minor compared to the +4 to attack. With Lanka's hugely damaging Falchions F9 is IMHO not wasted against Hinnom. It's *better* against Niefelheim's fire vulnerability of course but against Hinnom the 6 AP attack would only add another 15% damage or so if Hinnom didn't have fire resistance.

-Max

[rdonj]

How would high death perform on nature blessed giants as opposed to fire?