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				 Re: The (not really) Official Endgame Summon Threa 
 Hmmm. Well, if you give everybody 9 magic paths they will be more magically powerful than Chayot and on par with Seraphim, and far above most Wished pretenders. I may tone it down a bit in my games. E4N3 is plenty competitive in my book, since 4 is "high end" magic for national mages.
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 9 paths does seem extreme, but I guess Endo's idea is that they are all uniques, and at 200 gems apiece definitely not cheap. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Fear the Grendelkin! 
 See the attached pic.
 Comments very welcome. I'm thinking he will be a water/earth summon (coming, as he does, from watery caves). Also having him be cross-path should make him a little rarer - we don't want grendelkin running around all over the place.
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 Pretty sweet.  Maybe something could be done to jazz up his melee a bit?  I mean I guess he does hit like a truck.....  "Claw" just seems so uninteresting.     
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 Thanks guys!    
Regarding amphibiousness: He does like water, but I can't see him wandering around on the sea bed (grendels don't like salt), so I'm not sure how well amphibian would fit.
 
As for reinvig etc: The real power of the guy is his full slots, which mean you can make up for any particular deficiencies like fatigueing. I don't think natural reinvig is necessarily thematic though, since it's a pretty rare thing in vanilla dominions.
 
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		| llamabeast said: See the attached pic.
 
 Comments very welcome. I'm thinking he will be a water/earth summon (coming, as he does, from watery caves). Also having him be cross-path should make him a little rarer - we don't want grendelkin running around all over the place.
 
 |  Beowulf ripped an arm off one of THOSE??!!! Wow.
 
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		| llamabeast said: 9 paths does seem extreme, but I guess Endo's idea is that they are all uniques, and at 200 gems apiece definitely not cheap.
 
 |  Non-uniques, at least 100 gems for one + host (winter wolves etc), but only 3 misc slots. That's enough for antimagic and two immunities, but you can't boost their protection. I lowered the bear's protection to 16, 20 after E4 and regen to 10. 
 
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		| Endoperez said: ...but you can't boost their protection...
 
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