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		Are you sure they constantly eat population, or do they only eat population if supply is insufficient? 
 
I usually take growth with this nation - and I haven't seen pop decreasing... 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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Are you sure they constantly eat population, or do they only eat population if supply is insufficient? 
 
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 I just played a game at Growth 3.  Things were doing ok until some of those gluttonous heroes showed up.  I didn't need them in battle (when I saw how powerful the initial expansion and PD were, I decided to win without attacking anyone) and left them in my capital.  Pretty soon I noticed my capital population was way down and soon it was zero.  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Seriously.  I have a test game running now where I don't use Melqarts/Repahiites.  Pop eating is fairly manageable as their researchers aren't quite so flesh hungry, but even just 1 son added to a handful of mages started slaughtering my capitol pop en masse, even with G3 on. 
 
My first test with G3, I could get to 3 Melqarts in my cap with before they negated the growth.  I found it interesting that it seems that basically you can't do a sacred strategy and expect to see the real late game.  You will either win before you are summoning Lords, or you will get your *** kicked for being too aggressive.  Look at it this way, even a province with 10k pop at G3 will stop growing with a single Melqart in it.  A squad of 3 Melqarts and 6-8 Rephaiites must move constantly, or begin systematically ruining your nation. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Or of course they could park in one province and ruin *it* until you call them out for the war. You don't have to let them eat the whole nation. 
 
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Or of course they could park in one province and ruin *it* until you call them out for the war. You don't have to let them eat the whole nation. 
 
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 But if there's no pop, there's no supplies, no?  And if there's no supplies AND no pop, they will in fact starve....?  I guess maybe if you pile them all in one place with 10 healers.....  That doesn't seem right though.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		they do not need to eat, they just like to eat 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		You could always throw a couple of supply items in, but more importantly, Commanders don't starve.  
 
 
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		Yeah, poor healers. No resources = no wood to cook them = raw meat = diseases = no healers & sick giants. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Well, the Melqarts NNE, but is it worth going for an expensive dual bless, and then not using the incredibly strong Rephaiites as well? 
< shrug >  I am still confused how these guys survive once they've eaten every living thing in their vicinity.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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