Next patch

Ironhawk · #1 June 10th, 2008, 01:53 AM

My 2 cents on an upcoming patch:

First of all, thanks IW! I had thought that the most recent patch might be the last and that you might be moving on to your next game. This will be a treat

As for suggestions, two things pop to mind:

- Increase the Global Spell limit (or make it a game setting), for huge games.

- Fix the Dome Stacking Bug

wait did they fix dome stacking in the last patch? I havent tested it...

quantum_mechani · #2 June 10th, 2008, 01:58 AM

Dome stacking is gone (at least the most abusive air dome kind).

Lingchih · #3 June 10th, 2008, 02:05 AM

I will play the CB mod. In fact I am playing it right now in one MP game. It's good, but I prefer vanilla. I think the game should be played as most new players would play it, without mods.

Kuritza · #4 June 10th, 2008, 03:40 AM

I fail to see how CB makes all spells and units equally useful, to be honest. Still no use for vyvern, giant eagle and bog beast, etc etc.

quantum_mechani · #5 June 10th, 2008, 04:15 AM

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Kuritza said:
Still no use for vyvern, giant eagle and bog beast, etc etc.

This is always debatable, but I've used wyverns, for instance, to great effect in CB. Try MA Man and use dragon master and you can get a very large force early game. I have used and seen used:

Summon animals
Summon Bane
Summon Sea Dogs
Prison of Fire
Bind Bone Fiends
Harm
Summon Sea lions
... etc.

And that's just the spells.

llamabeast · #6 June 10th, 2008, 05:05 AM

Those are indeed an _exceptionally_ cool set of fixes.

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Definitely very happy to see the maximum number of commanders and units increased!! This is terrific news!

I thought you would be happy NTJedi!

WraithLord · #7 June 10th, 2008, 01:19 PM

I wonder if IW could give us the numbers of the new limits. Just so we could do rough calculations of how big a maps we can play with Pan or Ermor.

Ironhawk · #8 June 10th, 2008, 06:35 PM

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Kuritza said:
I fail to see how CB makes all spells and units equally useful, to be honest.

Thankfully, thats not what CB is supposed to do. If all units were equal, the game would become boring. CB is supposed to make more units/spells etc, useful (at the very least a niche use) rather than having one set of units that are good and the rest that are useless, as in Vanilla.

NTJedi · #9 June 11th, 2008, 04:50 AM

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quantum_mechani said:
Dome stacking is gone (at least the most abusive air dome kind).

I see this issue listed within the bug thread, yet I don't see anything mentioned about this being fixed within the bug thread or the Illwinter progress page. I only see voice of Apsu/Tiamat being fixed as being used against domes.

What's your source for the issue being gone?

quantum_mechani · #10 June 11th, 2008, 04:58 AM

A brief test Micah ran. As I recall, the bug was that you could stack up enough air domes that no spells would get through, so none would shatter. The test showed that if any air dome failed a check, then that one was shattered. Which is arguably still abusable, but it's also not to hard for the other person to shatter those domes fairly cheaply with 2-3 gem rituals.