Lies My Rulebook Told Me

[capnq]

thejeff said:

Strictly deterministic? I could have sworn I have seen it switch back and forth. Could it be one of the things that either goes in order or reverse order?

Definitely either in order or reverse order.

I had a rather memorable solo game where my Agartha and the AI's Ermor blundered into each other while attacking indy provinces, twice within a span of three or four turns. In one pair of battles, Ermor attacked the indies first, then Agartha attacked Ermor. In the other pair, Agartha took the indy province first, then Ermor attacked Agartha.

[Endoperez]

Repel mechanic works as said, but mindless units automatically take 1 point of damage from repel. An arch devil repelling dozens of 1-hp dragonflies was a wonderful sight... And surprisingly enough, a horde of morale 12 dragonflies was able to deal several points of damage to the Arch Devil.

Non-mindless dragonflies would probably be the easiest way to test the real probabilities of critical hits, if someone feels like doing that... Here's a mod if anyone wants to count how many hits dragonflies get against a heavily armored unit.

#modname "test"
#selectspell "Swarm"
#researchlevel 0
#end
#selectmonster "Dragonfly"
#mor 30
#end

[Ironhawk]

Repel interacts with mindless? Are you serious?

[Tichy]

I agree with the poster who suggests folding this into the FAQ. An "errata" section would be nice to have there, if Edi's ok with it.

[JimMorrison]

Ironhawk said:
Repel interacts with mindless? Are you serious?

Well, repel forces a Morale roll, and Mindless beings have exceptionally high Morale.....

[MaxWilson]

Repel forces a Morale roll *IF* you hit in the normal repel mechanic. "Mindless == automatically take 1 HP damage" is something else entirely.

-Max

[JimMorrison]

Oh right, I forgot that part of the earlier posts. I'm curious how this affects units like Lobo Guard in prolonged melee. I don't use them a lot, but I hadn't noticed them whittling themselves down, when I do.

[Micah]

If anyone that posts an addition could include the page number that'd be awesome, I'll go back and edit them in once I get a decent batch. And feel free to add this in wherever, I was hoping for some sort of stickiness, even if it's under the general FAQ. =)

Please post some files if you've got contradictory assertions as well, it'd help to get everything sorted out.

[Endoperez]

MaxWilson said:
Repel forces a Morale roll *IF* you hit in the normal repel mechanic. "Mindless == automatically take 1 HP damage" is something else entirely.

I didn't know it either, but the log file indicated it pretty clearly. No random rolls or anything, just something like "repell negated by mindlessness" and hordes of Dragonflies dying. I tested it by making dragonflies non-mindless, and as I said, they could actually hurt the Arch Devil.

[llamabeast]

I didn't quite follow what you said about dragonflies and critical hits, but it's worth bearing in mind that the dragonfly bite is AN.