Honor Harrington

oleg · #1 May 31st, 2002, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pit Bull:

It needs point defences that only defend the ship they are mounted on, and only against seekers. This SE4 doesn't have. The closest feel you could get to it that I can think of would be to rename shield regenerators as point defence, this would give a certain amount of ability to absorb damage per turn, but be capable of being saturated by continual attack. Not perfect I accept, but part way there.

Pit Bull

This scenario is based on Proportions mod which has self-defence cannon. SDC has a radius of fire 1 and is almost useless against fighters (they have weapons with firing distance of 2 or 3) but very good against missiles and drones.

Pit Bull · #2 May 31st, 2002, 07:33 PM

I'm new to SE4, haven't looked at the mods yet.

But does a short range work? Wouldn't the seekers go from out of range to impact in their movement unless you happened to be at just the right range (seeker speed +1)?

Pit Bull

zen. · #3 May 31st, 2002, 07:52 PM

IIRC, the point defense can fire (usually) once a turn. If it hasn't fired yet, it will fire as soon as the missiles are in range, whether it be during your turn or the enemy's.

zen

Skulky · #4 June 1st, 2002, 07:42 AM

Actually IIRC it can effectively fire as many times or 2x im not sure as there are opponents. I think it reloads after your turn, fires at inbounds, then reloads again. However this may have been a range thing where i sqweezzed (sp?) in two shots and then yeah...

dumbluck · #5 June 1st, 2002, 12:07 PM

You know, for all the talk on these forums about HH, maybe I should read it....

PvK · #6 June 2nd, 2002, 12:06 PM

Ya, Proportions' self-defense cannons (SDC) can intercept seekers at range one, as they come in. Their reduced accuracy compared to PDC, and the improved fighters modifiers, mean missiles can be stopped by the SDC or PDC, but fighters can remain a viable weapon even into the late game.

Proportions also has light missile systems, however, which can increase missile rate of fire by up to about 4x by launcher mass (but for less damage per shot).

Although directional shields aren't in SE4, they can be thought to be abstractly included in training. A superior captain could be represented by a ship and/or fleet with high experience levels, leading to a decisive to-hit differential - equivalent to outmaneuvering an enemy, with whatever specific details that requires.

PvK

Pit Bull · #7 June 2nd, 2002, 05:20 PM

Dumbluck.

You're absolutely right - you should read them.

And you can get a free ebook of the first in the series,
"On Basilisk Station", here:

baen free library

On Basilisk Station [OBS] is not bad, but more to do with establishing politics and characters than ship combat (there is one briefly described simulated fleet engagement, and the climax of the book is a 1 versus 1 combat, although that establishes a lot of the technology and hence tactics.)

Additionally, soon to be added to the free library is "Honor of the Queen" [HOTQ], the second in the series.

Now, if OBS is not bad, HOTQ is awesome. Packed to the gunwhales with action. Deliberate assaults, ambushes, reargaurd actions, and a desperate fight to the finish.

So, for everyone that hasn't read HH, now you know:

a) Why you should.
b) How you can read the first 2 for free.

So "lets be about it"

Pit Bull