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				 Re: Guide for Competitive Extreme MA Shinuyama 
 
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				 Re: Guide for Competitive Extreme MA Shinuyama 
 I don't mind but it's better to go and gather turtles at the beach than to have precious Kappas killed for them   . 
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				 Re: Guide for Competitive Extreme MA Shinuyama 
 Lisa, a guy who's got lots of ivory is less likely to hurt Stampy than a guy whose ivory supplies are low. 
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				 Re: Guide for Competitive Extreme MA Shinuyama 
 
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		| ano said: It requires  very thorough placement to use them efficiently and not gather empty turtle shells after battle.
 
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				 Re: Shinuyama: in the shadows, on the battlefield, under the waves 
 shameless self bump for update.  It's been awhile since I've actually played, but have been meaning to get this out there. |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Shinuyama: in the shadows, on the battlefield, under the waves 
 Hmm.
 I don't know if this was mentioned much OW: fairly viable is to go resource -3 and use a lot of kappas.  Kitsunes with relief?
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					Originally Posted by chrispedersen  Hmm.
 I don't know if this was mentioned much OW: fairly viable is to go resource -3 and use a lot of kappas.  Kitsunes with relief?
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				 Re: Shinuyama: in the shadows, on the battlefield, under the waves 
 Kappas make an effective starting expansion force,you don't need relief until they are massed.
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				 Re: Shinuyama: in the shadows, on the battlefield, under the waves 
 Also, dai-bakemono are really too good to not use.  You can easily be generating an expansion force of them every turn by the middle of year 1.  (With Production3 of course - i know, not generally a popular choice, but you don't actually need your pretender to do much). |  
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
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