Repel mechanics. How exactly it works?

[Endoperez]

Successful repel deals 1 point of damage and forces a morale check before attacking, a bit like Awe. Mindless creatures aren't affected by the morale thing, just by the damage.


I don't know how the repel mechanics works with mindless beings being repelled, but it's different from what usually happens because an Arch Devil can repel nearly unlimited number of mindless dragonflies, but can only kill few non-mindless dragonflies. It could be that attack roll is still required but repel doesn't lower attack for further repel attempts on that turn.

[Sombre]

But the repel calculation also uses prot - it doesn't deal 1 point of damage unless it beats prot and it is always capped at a max of 1. Does it use the damage value of the weapon in order to work out of it beats prot though? No idea.

[Endoperez]

Oh, I had forgotten that. In that case, it could be that mindless units are always "hit" in repel, but their protection might save them from the single point of damage.

[ano]

How would you explain the fact that Empoisoner with a skull staff (length 4) was killed by dragonflies very quickly (and no dragonfly died from repel) while archdevil repels and kills all of them?

[Sombre]

The archdevil has far higher attack than the empoisoner, so he's far more likely to succeed in his repel attacks.

[ano]

Emposioner with skull staff: attack 14
Vanjarl with Frost Brand: attack 18

Probably, you're right. Dragonflies have def15 so probably it's not so easy for Empoisoner to hit them.
And what about the stated repel penalty? Do you know how it's calculated? Manual states that there's a penalty -2 for each repel attempt. What is this penalty applied to?

[Digress]

Its a shame that the secondary effects of some weapons don't kick in after a successful repel.

Weapons dripping with poison for example don't "empoison" those attackers that are repelled.

[Sombre]

ano said:
And what about the stated repel penalty? Do you know how it's calculated? Manual states that there's a penalty -2 for each repel attempt. What is this penalty applied to?

It seems, though I am not sure, that this penalty isn't working properly with mindless units.