So no Dominions 4?

[S.R. Krol]

Theonlystd said:
Yes but those production values are why games cost what they cost now.. And why new gen console games run yea 60 dollars.

Actually one of the big things about console pricing is the fact that everyone has to pay essentially a tithe to the console manufacturer to get published. There is also a buy-in just to start developing. If it wasn't for that (consoles lose money on hardware and count on the games to make up the losses and then some) you'd see an actual range of pricing with console games.

Itchykobu said:
I'm slightly confused by this topic. That is, I'm not sure if the topic creator actually likes this game. He seems to want to play it with his roommates, which would indicate he does like it. However, it doesn't seem like he feels that it is worth the price he paid for it....which would indicate that he doesn't like it....

Ya know, I thought that same thing after my first post. He bought the game, and from his forum registration date around the time it came out, hasn't posted in years and then comes on to complain about price because his roommates think it's overpriced...but then shouldn't it be the roomies making the complaint?

[Sombre]

S.R. Krol said:
If it wasn't for that (consoles lose money on hardware and count on the games to make up the losses and then some) you'd see an actual range of pricing with console games.

You do. There are a variety of budget labels that don't just rerelease old games, they include lower cost new games. The simple series in japan was the most famous of them. 505 game street does ok in the west, too.

There are also various console games released at mid level prices because they are semi sequels, multiplayer only etc. Then there are the 'arcade' games on the next gen consoles.

I could go on :]

[Theonlystd]

S.R. Krol said:

Actually one of the big things about console pricing is the fact that everyone has to pay essentially a tithe to the console manufacturer to get published. There is also a buy-in just to start developing. If it wasn't for that (consoles lose money on hardware and count on the games to make up the losses and then some) you'd see an actual range of pricing with console games.

I know about the the lisencing fees or whatever one calls it to have a game released for the console and that the hardware is sold at a loss.. But production costs,and development time and all that is a factor to .

Supposedly GTA 4 cost over 100million dollars to develop..

And if anything just goes to my point. You take out the "tithe" as you said.. And you'd have games that tooks years and millions upon millions to make selling cheaper than a 2 year old indy game with subpar graphics...

[sector24]

Dominions 3 has an extremely high entertainment/value ratio. But it comes with a very high opportunity cost, i.e. you're paying $55 for what might be junk when you could pay instead pay $30 for another game that might be junk.

[JimMorrison]

sector24 said:you're paying $55 for what you might think is junk when you could pay instead pay $30 for another game that probably is junk.

Fixed. >.>

[JimMorrison]

Theonlystd said:
Supposedly GTA 4 cost over 100million dollars to develop..

And if anything just goes to my point. You take out the "tithe" as you said.. And you'd have games that tooks years and millions upon millions to make selling cheaper than a 2 year old indy game with subpar graphics...

You're kidding me, right?

Budweiser is cheap as hell. Why is that? Because they sell well over 50 million kegs of it every year. Does it cost them a small fortune to produce that much beer? Of course it does, but they make their profit on volume.

Take Rogue Brewery here in Oregon, or any other local micro-brewery for comparison. Their production costs are fairly low, they do things by hand, with a small crew. Guess what? Their beer costs 3x as much as Bud, and it's not going to get any cheaper, no matter how much complaining there is from people without refined tastes.

Conversely, if you want to compare price-vs-cost between Dominions and high profile studio titles, you are only showing that you are not capable of making the distinction between what makes the one game good, and what makes the other game sell.

You have lost this argument ten times so far in this thread, but obviously you can't see or accept that fact either.....

[Theonlystd]

JimMorrison said:

You're kidding me, right?

Budweiser is cheap as hell. Why is that? Because they sell well over 50 million kegs of it every year. Does it cost them a small fortune to produce that much beer? Of course it does, but they make their profit on volume.

Take Rogue Brewery here in Oregon, or any other local micro-brewery for comparison. Their production costs are fairly low, they do things by hand, with a small crew. Guess what? Their beer costs 3x as much as Bud, and it's not going to get any cheaper, no matter how much complaining there is from people without refined tastes.

Conversely, if you want to compare price-vs-cost between Dominions and high profile studio titles, you are only showing that you are not capable of making the distinction between what makes the one game good, and what makes the other game sell.

You have lost this argument ten times so far in this thread, but obviously you can't see or accept that fact either.....

Errr ok you've missed most of my points. Then some how decided who won or lost in a thread talking about a possible price cut..

O thank you Decider of who won the threads. The world is no doubt a better place with you making such crucial decisions .

[Tichy]

More importantly, Rogue makes really good beer.

[Lingchih]

Tichy said:
More importantly, Rogue makes really good beer.

I like their Dead Man ale. Their Mori Moto pilsener is really good too. As well as their Imperial Stout. All are pricey.

Sorry, I used to live in Oregon, and am a big fan of the Rogue brewery.

[JimMorrison]

Lingchih said:

I like their Dead Man ale. Their Mori Moto pilsener is really good too. As well as their Imperial Stout. All are pricey.

Sorry, I used to live in Oregon, and am a big fan of the Rogue brewery.

You should get the Morimoto Soba if you can, it is -amazing-. Also a big fan of the Brutal Bitter, and their Rogue-N-Berry used to be hands down the best berry beer you could get in America, til they cut it because it wasn't as good as Belgian berry beers. o.O


I like this discussion much more than the other.

And yeah it makes me sad that Dom4 might be so far away that it may never come, but I support the decision, and I'm drooling to see what these two wild and crazy guys might come up with next.