So no Dominions 4?

[theenemy]

Leif_- said:

"Pretender på tacket", "Thing that should not be på luffen", "Mästerdetektiven Cyclops", "Alla vi barn i Tir na n'Og" "Pippi Vampire Queen går ombord"

Lol Don't forget Mästerdetektiven Priest King Blomkvist or Bröderna Hellbind Heart.

[hoo]

Hail Leif and his economics wisdom. Enjoyed reading his perspective which correctly uses econ models. Maximizing sales kills companies as Leif points out.

I wonder if Shrapnel could bundle some games with Dom 3 to offer a price break but I also guess that so many of their other games are so different there may not be any interest.

Say Dom 3, Scallywag and Falklands war for $100.00? I would guess there would be very few takers but it would be interesting to see how many dom 3 players have bought other Shrapnel titles and if they could be induced to do so? I'd guess the crossover is pretty small with the dom 3 title b/c it's way different from the war sims.

[JimMorrison]

hoo said:
I wonder if Shrapnel could bundle some games with Dom 3 to offer a price break but I also guess that so many of their other games are so different there may not be any interest.

Say Dom 3, Scallywag and Falklands war for $100.00? I would guess there would be very few takers but it would be interesting to see how many dom 3 players have bought other Shrapnel titles and if they could be induced to do so? I'd guess the crossover is pretty small with the dom 3 title b/c it's way different from the war sims.

Not sure about the potential with a bundle - I mean, I already bought Dom3, didn't you? But perhaps some sort of a bulk special, where if you order 3 copies of any product at the same time, you get a % discount? This would tempt me a bit, as some of those war sims look kind of entertaining, but haven't tempted me that much yet. Also, it would make the "getting multiple friends playing" situation a little easier.

[Dectilon]

Another one of my favorite games is Total War 2, and I've always imagined that Dominions could totally be created using that engine : )

Not that you'd cut 'n paste minotaurs over pikemen, but that a dominions game could be built using the way TW handles battles with masses of units while still having decent graphics. ^^

Except for perhaps a few minor interface issues and balance issues Dominions 3 really is close to a perfect game. The only thing that can recieve a major improvment is the presentation; the music and the graphics. With that done, look out, Spore (or whatever high-profile strategy game we will see in the future)

[Aezeal]

While I couln't be bothered to read every post (I completely skipped the last 2 pages of posts in here)

maybe the OP should be directed towards the thread where shrapnel explained why the prices are as they where (it was a similar thread with a good reaction from shrapnel.. can't find it atm though.. before I read that I had similar thoughts as the OP.. after it I was convinced shrapnel knew what they where doing... it was very enlightning.

[Gandalf Parker]

I think it might have been in Shrapnels Blog tho it might have been linked to here.

[Gandalf Parker]

I see a common error in some of these posts.

There are game companies who are developers, shelf-ware, and marketing. Then there are game companies who are production for developers, ordering, and publicity. They are two very different business models and you cannot just jump back and forth so dont bother comparing one to the other.

Games which go to a company as an idea, the company helps develop it, they shelf-ware it, they market it with ads are laying out quite abit of money ahead of sales. The developers dont see any profits sometimes for years. Such games tend to have to meet some basic requirements for things like eye-candy and major copy protection and built-in product failure point (I forget the word for it).

Games which are developed by the programmers, then publicized and made available for ordering are available for instant profit sharing with no pay-back timeframe. Personally, the few games Ive loved which shifted from one business-model publisher to the other have let me down. I have no problem with the way Dominions is being marketed (I also do my part to aid in the publiity side). Im not sure if Dom would benefit from switching. Im also very unsure if we the customers would benefit if they shifted.

[Sombre]

The sad thing is I would personally like to see it cheaper and I could convince more people to buy it if it was, but I can't agree at all with the direction of this thread.

When I bought Dom3 it was quite a layout because I lived in China and as such the shipping was very expensive and it was a whole chunk of my income to buy. I very, very nearly didn't because of the cost. I'm glad I did but I didn't get my money's worth out of it for quite a while and it was definitely a risk.

[Tifone]

Sombre said:
The sad thing is I would personally like to see it cheaper and I could convince more people to buy it if it was, but I can't agree at all with the direction of this thread.

Yeah, me too

I don't pretend being an economics expert, or suggest the devs to make the game cheaper or even more expensive... I am sure there are very valid reasons for the pricing choices. Many of you guys talked about them.

For me, having already bought the game, I'd just like to see the game somewhat cheaper, to bring some friends (less likely to take that "leap of faith" someone talked about ) to buy it too to play together. For me, it was worth every single penny anyway.

[Theonlystd]

Tifone said:

Yeah, me too

I don't pretend being an economics expert, or suggest the devs to make the game cheaper or even more expensive... I am sure there are very valid reasons for the pricing choices. Many of you guys talked about them.

For me, having already bought the game, I'd just like to see the game somewhat cheaper, to bring some friends (less likely to take that "leap of faith" someone talked about ) to buy it too to play together. For me, it was worth every single penny anyway.

Indeed.. I dont regret buying it.. But i have more disposable income than most and can eat bad purchases here and there.. And i have in the past i've made the leap of faith on some bad games.

And would love to play this with more of my friends.. But at its current price.. Not going to happen..