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Old July 11th, 2008, 09:41 AM

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Default Re: Mod: Better Independents v2.0

Oh yeah, I think I turned off BI for a whole and turned it on again in my last attempt.
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Old July 20th, 2008, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: Mod: Better Independents v2.0

can somebody tell me why independent units in one province will have their normal cost and the mods cost in the province right next to it?

i really want to try this out because the AI pisses me off but something doesnt seem right. i turned off cbm to make sure its not that.

btw how do i get BI to load last? just rename it to ZBI?


edit: im sorry i forgot that militias arnt changed. i feel like an idiot
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Old July 20th, 2008, 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Mod: Better Independents v2.0

no wait..

seriously im playing a game right now and in SOME provinces the miltia are 9k + 800 rec and the other units are normal priced

and in other provinces the militia are normal price and thje other units are 9k + 800 rec

im not kidding. am i doing somthing wrong? id really like to use this mod

edit: ok i checked the .dm
i guess certain units like militia and light infantry have different versions.. i wasnt even aware of this as i dont use those type of independents.

so i guess the militia is sometimes expensive and sometimes normal because there are two types and the one that is left unchanged is the one u recieve in events.

and i suppose its intentional that units like the light infantry with the javelin are left unchanged?
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Default Re: Mod: Better Independents v2.0

The light infantry with the javelin is left unchanged because it's a decent unit that can be useful. It is better than some similar national units (peltast for Arco, for example).

I would love to turn off that one militia type that is currently recruitable, but unfortunately that is impossible. There is an event that gives militia to a nation, so if I modded them to cost 9000 gold, they would have an upkeep of 600 each and getting 60 of those guys via event would mean instant bankruptcy.

The point of the mod is not to turn off all independents, but to leave the better, more useful units in the game. If they crappy ones are unavailable, the AI is more likely to recruit national troops instead of hordes of chaff.

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yeah i played a game and the computer owned me

and yeah the reason i chose this over NI id because i think independents add alot of flavour

and it was soooooo cool to get my *** kicked by jotuns and goblins instead of kicking (more) militia and light infantry ***. the nations actually use their units. alot more fun heh.

also the ai is harder now. its still insanly stupid of course but now itll at least win when it does attack with 300+ units

it even taught me how insanely strong a horde of archers can be

anyways thanks for the mod its made SP alot more fun
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Fomoria still owns me every time I try to play with that mod in EA
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Try playing against Hinnom...

Seriously, I ran into an AI Hinnom with mostly positive scales (including growth) and until I managed to crush his main armies, I was in serious trouble. The chariots were brutal. I was playing Abysia and it was the E9F6 Burning Ones and absolutely massive fireball spam that carried the day. If I'd had just one other nation attack me at the same time, I'd have been done for. And that was in an allied game.
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