HINNOM EATS EVERYTHING

[konming]

If developers try to balance Hinnom, I think a good way would be taking away S completely. Suddenly you cannot teleport or horror spam. Or do anything powerful with S. Their heroes would not have S either, leaving LoC much more important to summon.

[konming]

Another change would be giving all their units other than rephaim very low morale. After all, one will not be very eager to fight when his master just ate his family for breakfast. All regular troops will have a morale of 8 and dawn guard 10.

[Tifone]

Seems good and thematic suggestions to me, konmig

If someone can even, and I'm not doing criticism, explain me without skinning me alive why those angels of hinnom have 100% resistance to 3 things, are stealthy (very stealthy), and have a so high fear (I mean, they're kind of angels! The Moloch, the Manticore and the Dagon seem way more terrific to me, and they have Fear+0, not to talk about the Mother of Monsters, the Destroyer of Worlds and the Drakaina, who don't have it at all ), I would be grateful. Really, no criticism intended, and the Fear on those pretenders is ok as it is for me (well maybe the Drakaina IS a little horrific), I just think the Lords of Civilization's Fear may be a little out of scale

[Renojustin]

Well, they're kind of like Voltron. Voltron is loved by good, and feared by evil. So don't get on Voltron's - or the angels' - bad sides.

[Tifone]

Maybe, Reno, but even being a bad *** (as I am ) I would rather fear a 5 meters tall woman with an anaconda's tail from which 6 half dogs bark their hunger for human flesh, than some angel (or even Voltron, if you wish )

[JimMorrison]

Any woman who has barking dog head's hanging out of her, is bad news in my book.

But if you're talking about the Lords of Creation, they're that bad *** because they used to be pretty much walking gods. They are immensely powerful, and now that they are tainted from imprisonment and reawakening, are quite psychotic as well. All those others are fairly tame compared to a pissed off and formerly imprisoned arch-angel.

[Tifone]

Ok, and being them so pissed off makes them 10 times more fearful then a gigantic lion with a poisonous scorpion sting, bat wings and an old (pissed off himself) man's head?

And even being them so pissed off, they can be very silent indeed if they are so stealthy

Maybe (and I say, maybe) this nation is already very powerful to have those 6 very pissed off summons ^^

Nobody misunderstands me plz!! I like the flavour of the nation!! The flavour of the Lords of Civilization!! I am not a balance maniac!! 4 reelz!!
I'm just saying for me, it would be good if some of the (IMHO very thematic) advices given by the people of this forum are implemented to Hinnom - a lower morale, a smallest initial army, no access to astral so if you want those bad-*** guys and the horror spam etc, you absolutely need a pretender designed in this way (it was rather surprising to me that Baalz said the thing you want the most from your pretender are scales... what? a nation that doesn't need the pretender for magic diversity, help in initial expansion by a SC, blesses? )

Those are my opinions. I am ALWAYS opened to new points ^^