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July 14th, 2008, 01:36 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
There are also more water nymphs that aren't currently in Dominions. Technically naiads are river nymphs, whereas nereids are sea nymphs, and oceanids are ocean nymphs. I'm not sure if they provide any gameplay benefits to Oceania and their plight, but perhaps they could provide path diversity but be relegated to water provinces and deep sea provinces respectively.
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July 14th, 2008, 04:49 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
Considering Tiamat - yes, she would be a fitting Pretender (or unique summon in any case)... but this wouldn't fix the general problem. Storm demons may be better - especially as there is no Air+Blood summonable commanders. But here we should also the way to summon them, i.e., Blood mages for Oceania to get (and it can't blood hunt uder the waves in any case).
Considering animals' low MR - at least Orcas could well have MR on par with humans - they are very clever guys! The same could go for Kraken mages... And corall-based monsters can have higher MR for being decentralized organisms with just no central brain/soul to affect with spells/mind blasts/dominations. 
About water nymphs - yes, there were a lot of them. We also shouldn't forget Nerejos himself - father of one kind of those - who was a shapeshifter and almost could wrestle Heracles to stalemate. And Achilles himself was a sone of one of water nymphs!  So it seems we can have an opportunity to include some real thugs here...
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July 14th, 2008, 05:53 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
Nah, there are several demons in the game who are summoned with gems rather than blood slaves (mostly national summons). A sea storm demon would make sense to be summoned with W/A, and wouldn't necessarily need to be a commander.
Orca aren't any significant amount smarter than elephants, kinda breaks the paradigm to give them higher MR. Doesn't mean it couldn't be cool, how about a remote attack spell like call of the wild? I don't see orca being frontline soldiers going toe to toe with heavily armed armies in any case, but perhaps stealthy raiders.
Haha, I think I've talked myself into doing a mod nation. Lets see if I can figure out this modding stuff.
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July 14th, 2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
I have just one word:
JELLYFISH!
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July 14th, 2008, 09:00 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
Many good ideas, but it is laughable that Oceania should get crocs, when MA Ctis does not even have Gators in its swamps.
Swamps are loaded with gators, Oceans are not inudated with crocs.
I see no reason that Oceania has to lose magic when their mages leave the water. Maybe gain air, and lose water. But they really cannot afford to have their mages just get weaker.
One thing Baalz did not do in Kingmaker, to my knowledge, is take a bless with his sacred troops. Maybe the knights can be tweaked to make them a better bless troop.
That may be the easiest fix of all. make the sacreds a bit better, and have their mages gain air, and lose water, rather than just lose magic on land.
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July 14th, 2008, 10:09 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
Hi, new to game so I haven't played Oceania yet....but do they have any good siege units? First thing this topic made me think of was big narwhal-like beasts that would employ their drill-like horns to get a siege bonus.
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July 14th, 2008, 10:29 PM
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Re: Here there be dragons!
oooh a narwhale I like those... good idea 
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